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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yeah, I'm sure a soldiers don't normally face reprisal for refusing to follow orders. /s

Maybe... don't issue orders that may be war crimes?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes, it's a very sticky wicket. In Israel's case you can just be a conscientious objector and either make up an excuse for non-service, or take the jail time. In places that don't even pose as Liberal democracies that's not an option, and you're best off trying to defect to someone else. If you can't manage that either, it's basically just time to survive while choosing kindness wherever you can, even if it means some loss and some risk. The soldier in The Pianist giving the guy cake comes to mind.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The only ethical option is to refuse to go when they try to enlist you.

[–] wispy_jsp 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Doesn't Israel have required military service?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Yet there are still people who refuse to enlist.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I believe it was Chris Browning who showed that German Wehrmacht soldiers, who refused to be in Einsatzgruppen didn't get punished for it.