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I have a Samsung S20, it's starting to have issues, so I'm looking at something decent, need large screen 6in+, prefer powerful phone for future proofing. I don't intend to glash it the 1st year, last phone I put a custom ROM on was my Note4. Right now I'm looking at the 1+ 12 and the pixel 8 pro, the pixel 9pro is just out of my price range. Is there anything else I should be looking at?

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[–] ouch 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm looking to upgrade my phone as well. One important thing I want is call recording, and that really narrows the options.

Samsung phones can record calls, but you need to use SamFW to change the CSC. LineageOS does not support recent models.

OnePlus phones have better hardware specs, but I think nowadays you have to root with Magisk and use BCR for recording. That breaks banking apps. LineageOS supports some OnePlus models, but not 12.

Pixels don't have native call recording? But GrapheneOS works on them. Again, many apps are broken.

Fairphone might be interesting, I should look into that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But GrapheneOS works on them.

And GrapheneOS has call recording btw

Again, many apps are broken.

Which apps do you mean? Most apps work just fine on GOS, even many banking apps and others that require proprietary Google Play services. The only apps that don't work, are those that make use of Google's completely stupid "Play Protect" API, which claims to verify that a device is secure, but in reality has absolutely nothing to do with security. Google (and other Big Tech companies) don't give a single fuck about your security. It's not Graphene's fault, and has to do with nothing more than Google's monopolistic practices. It's designed in a way, where an operating system has to be manually whitelisted by Google, in order to get certified. Obviously, they only allowlisted their own spyware-filled proprietary OS, which is less secure than Graphene.

Fairphone might be interesting

Unfortunately Fairphones are highly insecure, shipping with a completely broken implementation of Android Verified Boot, and using the publically available AOSP test private signing keys by default to sign the OS. They also lack all the hardware security features present in modern Pixel devices.

[–] ouch 1 points 1 month ago

And GrapheneOS has call recording btw

Thank you for the information. Unfortunately it does not seem to have automatic call recording yet:

https://github.com/GrapheneOS/os-issue-tracker/issues/2083

Which apps do you mean?

You answered this already: apps that use the Play Integrity API. Includes some local banking apps, some random ones and Google Wallet. I wish app developers didn't use those APIs, but they are probably not aware of the implications or don't care.