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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (3 children)

No, there’s a bigger context that you’re not considering: enterprise IT orgs in privacy-sensitive/confidential domains.

This whole feature is an absolute non-starter in biotech, defense, finance, and a bunch of other industries. It’s an infosec nightmare. Legal teams will categorically refuse to allow W11 to be installed simply due to the legal jeopardy it would put their own orgs in, since it implicitly trusts MS with who the fuck knows how much data exactly.

I continue to be shocked and baffled that MS isn’t taking their stance on this product as an “always-on” thing back to the drawing board.

[–] Hackerman_uwu 17 points 1 month ago

I consult in some companies that don’t even allow copy/paste in outlook. Like, these are actually MS security policies that can be set.

How in all of the actual fucks could they allow MS to see everything on your screen.

I agree with your non starter assessment.

[–] irotsoma 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah I work for a major company in healthcare and they don't allow Windows 11 for several reasons.

But also outside of the healthcare data issue, there's the legal issue of retaining data. Our company doesn't allow us to retain emails for more than 2 years and there are lots of other retention policies, and software to enforce them, that don't require keeping data, but instead require deleting it. This is a common trend in major corporations right now. You can't have data hacked or subpoenaed in a court case if it doesn't exist. Recall is great for micromanagement of employees, but bad for just about all other parts of a company. I don't get who is behind this and who they think they're appeasing with it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Don't they already have a non copilot version of Windows 11? I believe the OPM is already using it.