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[–] Adm_Drummer 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Why would you like to see a supermajority in order to join an economic union?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

See Brexit. That was to leave but same principle.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Given how much noise exit parties, or generally anti EU sentiments can cause, I'd also prefer a higher bar. Be welcomed if you join, but please be sure about it.

[–] x00z 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The EU isn't just economic.

And you can literally say only half the people want it, which doesn't make sense for such big decisions. "Most" people should want it, but I wouldn't call this "most people" in the practical sense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Canada has a law to this effect called the Clarity Act to make sure that Quebec never votes for independence by a margin like this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If it was genuine (no interference) then I can see how having nearly half the folks opposed to joining could cause some, erm, friction in the union.

But I'm willing to make an exception in this case - when Russian disinformation gets involved, it makes sense to move the bar in the opposite direction to counter them!

[–] Adm_Drummer 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure votes like this require a certain percentage of the population to vote anyway. Like... the vote wouldn't count if there was only 15% voter turnout.

ultimately, a majority of the country had a chance to vote and a majority decided (by a slim margin) that they wanted in.

The other issue as you stated was authenticity. Of course you'll have natural dissenters. But a lot of evidence does indeed point to interference. Like people asking the poll watchers where to collect their money and becoming upset they won't get payed for voting no.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Agreed in full. I'm happy with the majority of the majority btw - that wasn't an angle I had considered originally.