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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

> What do you agree with about Marx?

just off my head:

  • the labor theory of value
  • surplus value
  • freedom
  • that the means of production should be owned by the community
  • democracy (from what I remember he was kinda democtratic, please correct me)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The LTV is based on Materialism, so I'd read up more on that. Same with Surplus Value.

Freedom is one that is a bit different from Anarchists. Marxists believe that the individual is free when the community is free, Anarchists tend to believe the Community is free when the individual is free.

As for "communally owned," there's an important nuance. Marxists are in favor of public ownership and central planning, Anarchists are in favor of communal ownership and mutual aid. Different systems entirely.

Democracy is a bit vague. All Marxists are democratic, the structure of the democracy is different, and not direct democracy like most Anarchist systems.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

thx for refreshing my memory, I should totally read it again, it's been almost 20 years now

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Let me know if you want any recommendations!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

thought I'll read the Kapital again, since I appear to have forgotten pretty much anything from it

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Capital is a good choice, but you'll get more bang for your time with Socialism: Utopian and Scientific IMO.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And wage labor and capital and value price and profit if they want to touch more on the economics.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Certainly good, but I'd say Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism and The State and Revolution are more eye-opening for an anti-AES Anarchist to read.