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Why self host a password manager? (programming.dev)

submitted 2 months ago by [email protected] to c/selfhosted

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I'm going to move away from lastpass because the user experience is pretty fucking shit. I was going to look at 1pass as I use it a lot at work and so know it. However I have heard a lot of praise for BitWarden and VaultWarden on here and so probably going to try them out first.

My questions are to those of you who self-host, firstly: why?

And how do you mitigate the risk of your internet going down at home and blocking your access while away?

BitWarden's paid tier is only $10 a year which I'm happy to pay to support a decent service, but im curious about the benefits of the above. I already run syncthing on a pi so adding a password manager wouldn't need any additional hardware.

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[–] ColonelThirtyTwo 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I use a KeePassXC database on a syncthing share and haven't had any issues. You get synchronization and offline access, and even if there are sync conflicts, the app can merge the two files.

One benefit to hosted password vaults over files is that they can use 2FA - you can't exactly do TOTP with a static file.

(As an aside, I wish more "self hosted" apps were instead "local file and sync friendly" apps instead, exactly because of offline access)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

You can do 2FA with Keepass, just not TOTP. Add a key file or a hardware key on top of your master password and you pass "something that you have and something that you know" test

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

KeepassXC handles TOTP.

[–] ColonelThirtyTwo 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It can generate TOTP codes, but I'm saying that the vault itself can't be secured with TOTP.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Then the difference is really that someone else is handing the security, right? At the end of the day, there's an encrypted file somewhere, and a TOTP only protects a particular connection by network.

[–] ColonelThirtyTwo 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Sure, but there's a big difference between a vault copied and synced on all of my mobile devices that I could easily lose versus only on a server behind locked doors.