103
this post was submitted on 08 Oct 2024
103 points (95.6% liked)
Technology
59117 readers
3262 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related content.
- Be excellent to each another!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
Approved Bots
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I don’t quite understand why you are dismissing this person’s concerns like this. The codes are available for a very short period so there is a chance that if there is a WiFi or other network outage they genuinely could not get to the code.
It’s also not as though the UK has the best record when it comes to managing immigrants despite their promises.
You are welcome to do a quick google on what happened to Windrush immigrants, the trouble that EU immigrants have had post-brexit, and UKVI’s general rules, wait times, and fees. Much like the US, the UK’s immigration policy has been made highly hostile to many forms of immigration, limiting options for families and managing to bungle things at several junctures.
I agree that it is hard to put faith in a system like this where your immigration status relies on the availability of a network or even a single government site with no physical or offline backups.
Because this isn't the case. They're pretending that they can only get a code when they land in the UK and there's a very real risk that they will be without internet when they've reached the immigration desk. This is BS.
The code is valid for 30-90 days. You're telling me that within 30-90 days of travelling to the UK you can't generate a code and save it or write it down? Seriously?
Here's some googling you might not have done (or OP for that matter).
https://www.gov.uk/check-immigration-status
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/immigration/applying-to-the-eu-settlement-scheme/viewing-your-pre-settled-or-settled-status/
https://www.york.ac.uk/students/support/international/immigration/immigration-status/
And it's not like they are complicated codes that is difficult to write down. They look similar to this: S4WADTYWF.
When faced with new facts would you change your mind? I didn't think so.
I was not aware the share codes last that long now, the last time I used one (for work, although this was several years ago) it was only valid for 4 days and my employer refused to accept it which was a whole thing. I was under the (incorrect) impression that the system for border clearance would be worse than that. So I have changed my mind on this point despite your flippant comment, which was argumentative for no reason.
On the case of trusting the UK government to manage the immigration status digitally for people I still have my doubts. They don’t have the best track record.
I have my own UK passport now so I am a bit out of the loop but any sort of system where a person doesn’t have offline proof of their status that they can keep seems like it is open to issues (although physical only also has its issues so there are pros and cons no matter how you approach it).