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How save is XMPP really? (self.privacy)

submitted 1 month ago by andylicious1337 to c/[email protected]

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Ok so, here I am again asking another question 🙈🙊 But hear me out: I read this post here about, if there even is a good privacy messenger that can be trusted. Someone in the comments mentioned Conversations (a XMPP client for Android). This made me look into XMPP and at the moment I am giving Conversations a try. Reading into XMPP, I couldn't find a problem security or privacy wise. Also it seems like it does not matter what server I use (atm. we are on 07f.de) since it is all e2e with OMEMO. Am I missing something or is it really this good? And if I dont trust anyone, I could host my one instance of ejabberd, right?

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[+] [email protected] -9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Having to ask means you're probably conducting unsafe behaviors anyway

[–] andylicious1337 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I am asking because I want to understand the "hype" about XMPP that and why it is always mentioned when someone is asking for a good privacy friendly messenger :)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

The "hype" around XMPP is that it is simple and extensible. The server implementations of XMPP are very performant, especially compared to other protocols like Matrix that fit the same niche. I would like to see XMPP succeed, but what people want is a finished, unified product. Matrix, more so Element Matrix, succeeds in the personal messaging space because it provides a unified experience and a finished product. XMPP has been utilized by thousands of different projects, from Xbox game chats, to Zoom and WhatsApp, but each implementation is different and specialized. Conversations works great as a messenger, I recommend it. Easy to selfhost as well.