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Microsoft Edge gets "unfair advantage", browser makers claim (www.techradar.com)

submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/technology

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Some of the top browser makers around have issued a letter to the European Commission (EC) alleging that Microsoft gives the Edge browser an unfair advantage and should be subject to EU tech rules.

A letter seen by Reuters, sent by Vivaldi, Waterfox, and Wavebox, and supported by a group of web developers, also supports Opera’s move to take the EC to court over its decision to exclude Microsoft Edge from being subject to the Digital Markets Act (DMA).

As Edge comes pre-installed by default on Windows machines, users must navigate the Microsoft offering in order to download their browser of choice. The letter states that, “No platform independent browser can aspire to match Edge's unparalleled distribution advantage on Windows. Edge is, moreover, the most important gateway for consumers to download an independent browser on Windows PCs.”

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn't Edge also chromium?

[–] A_Random_Idiot 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes, and its a nasty story thats all unofficial cause no one is ever gonna go on the record, at least not for another 10-20 years when it comes out in someones book..

but the short of it is, Edge had its own browser engine, but google kept making changes to youtube and other google sites that broke Edges performance and made it run like dogshit, while leaving chromium based browsers alone.

after many instances of sabotage > microsoft workaround > google sabotage> microsoft workaround. Microsoft finally gave up and remade Edge as a chromium based browser.

[+] Wrench -13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

So Google establishing a now industry standard of evergreen versioning so that they could iterate relatively quickly on features, rather than have to maintain compatibility with years old versions, and iterating quickly on their own major websites - is a bad thing?

Right.

Yeah, let's go back to having to maintain terrible legacy browsers that behaved completely differently for the rest of time.

Edit - rofl. Bunch of revisionists here on Lemmy.

https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share#monthly-201001-202409

EdgeHtml released 2015.

But sure, Google has been doing shitty things lately so let's retroactively change history and make Microsoft the browser hero? Right.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

On "features" they would like to see. Most of the time features that make it difficult to block tracking and keep their advertising business going. The web is all about communication standards between different programs and this includes the joint adoption of new standards and respect for the existing standards.

[–] Wrench -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And Google established a lot of the standards that were both open and long living.

Yeah, Google has strayed far from the "Do no evil" philosophy in the last decade. But this rewriting of history to praise IE and demonfy Chrome from that era is ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This is about EdgeHTML not IE

[–] Wrench 0 points 1 month ago

Because we should wipe away 2 decades of history and pretend the next thing is flawless on release?

Edge came in with a freight train of baggage, and didn't make it. It's absurd to frame this otherwise.

[–] A_Random_Idiot 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

ah yes, the google white knights. here to completely misconstrue the argument to make everyone but google the bad guy.

because thats what a trillion dollar company that threatens to seize control of the internet needs.

[–] Wrench -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Rofl. So let's white wash the browser history before chrome, then. Back when IE reigned supreme. You must either be too young or not in the industry to champion that.

[–] A_Random_Idiot 3 points 1 month ago

Dude. Seriously. Genuinely.

Are you on drugs?

Or are you the victim of a mental derangement?

Because we need an explanation for this complete divorce from reality you seem to be suffering from.