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Some of the top browser makers around have issued a letter to the European Commission (EC) alleging that Microsoft gives the Edge browser an unfair advantage and should be subject to EU tech rules.

A letter seen by Reuters, sent by Vivaldi, Waterfox, and Wavebox, and supported by a group of web developers, also supports Opera’s move to take the EC to court over its decision to exclude Microsoft Edge from being subject to the Digital Markets Act (DMA).

As Edge comes pre-installed by default on Windows machines, users must navigate the Microsoft offering in order to download their browser of choice. The letter states that, “No platform independent browser can aspire to match Edge's unparalleled distribution advantage on Windows. Edge is, moreover, the most important gateway for consumers to download an independent browser on Windows PCs.”

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Not to mention that Microsoft forces you to use a Microsoft account when you create your account on your home computer which is then automatically logged in to edge and *bing so that they can track and quantize more of every single thing you do on the internet to monetize you

[–] one_knight_scripting -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

No it doesn't. I just reinstalled Windows 11 pro and I'm running without a Microsoft account.

Edit: I was unfamiliar with how different that is from the home experience. I'm still using Windows 7 keys to install Windows 11 so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ consider me out of the loop.

[–] scutiger 17 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Home versions, which most home users have, force the use of MS accounts. They've patched the bypass tricks that people used before.

[–] one_knight_scripting 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Ah. Did not realize this was an issue with home. I can not say I experienced that. Hell, I still use Windows 7 pro keys to activate Windows 11.

Do you know if you could use audit mode to bypass OOBE and get around it? Simply curious.

[–] scutiger 1 points 1 month ago

Apparently they disabled that bypass recently.

I don't know if installing Windows 10 and then upgrading can get around this though.

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