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Is zig memory safe by design? If not, rust will "win". Large companies aren't going to hire for an unknown or unpopular memory unsafe language when they already have C or C++ - there's just no contest.
Last I read, zig didn't even have a standard string library. Unless that changes, it won't even be a viable alternative to C/C++.
Edit: I checked and got this
Rust Magazine
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=> Zig is designed to make you do it right easily, and very hard to do it wrong.
In other words, Zig will let you be, but warn you when you are doing something wrong, where Rust is like Karen who is always screaming at you for every word you are typing.
To summarize, you really need to /want/ to fuck up to fail your memory management... If after all that you still can't manage your memory, it might be better for you to look for another carer.
Something is sure thou, Zig is very safe - just as it's safe to cut my veggies with a knife. I might cut a finger and bleed a little bit, but I will not use plastic knife "because it's safer".
Moreover; You are talking like if Rust is safe, all the time, which is not true in reality:
Basically, you're comparing a hypothetical world where Rust is always safe to a superficial glance at Zig's capabilities to claim a "winner" here.
And for the String library... Are you fucking serious? Do you want to compare the Zig's Std library versus the famously tiny Rust Std library? Really?
I've not looked into Zig yet (just like you must not have looked very closely into rust, since most of the stuff you mention as a Zig highlight is present in Rust too), so I'm not gonna argue which one may be "better" (if I had to bet, I'd say both are great in their own way - OP's question is IMHO kinda dumb to begin with).
I want, however, to point out a misconception: "unsafe" rust code is not code that is bugged or in any way inferior to "regular" code, it's just code (usually small pieces) whose safety is checked and guaranteed by the developer rather than the compiler. Yeah, they really should have picked a different name for it... possibly one that isn't literally the contrary of "safe".