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Socialism is not even radical (lemmy.ml)

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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You can't just focus on the bad and ignore everything that's good about these countries. Give us universal healthcare; give us socialized higher education; give us universal basic income; do away with for profit prisons and replace them with a system focused on rehabilitation.

So yeah, right wing idealism is on the rise but that's a global trend. These countries, in general, are light years ahead of the US.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

You can't just pray that into existence. In Europe, social safety nets are eroding, because they originated as concessions to prevent revolution.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Give us universal healthcare; give us socialized higher education; give us universal basic income; do away with for profit prisons and replace them with a system focused on rehabilitation.

?????????? Universal healthcare in all European countries is in the process of being dismantled, UBI is existing only in your fantasies, for profit prisons are talked here and there and if you think current ones are rehabilitating anyone you need to look closer.

Also where did i even say they are exactly the same or worse as USA (maybe in the same place where you seen implemented UBI?), and why you derail topic from specifically electoral system into general "badness"?

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Universal healthcare in all European countries is in the process of being dismantled

Going to need a source on that.

Why don't you go start a discussion about how we shouldn't forgive student loan debt because it's unfair. How about the one about how the wait times for healthcare in Canada are unbearable, as I wait 4 months to see a primary care doctor here in the us. You assholes latch on to one con argument and think you're gods gift to responsible governance. Fuck off.