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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by monolalia to c/linux_gaming
 

As per the linked FAQ,

What platforms will Sid Meier's Civilization VII be available on?

Sid Meier's Civilization VII will be available on PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Nintendo Switch, and PC via Steam (which also supports Mac and Linux) and the Epic Games Store.

The Steam store (preorder) listing shows all three platform icons so I’m guessing they’re not just talking about making it work with Proton.

No mention yet of Aspyr (who ported Civ 5 & 6) as far as I can see.

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[–] ichbinjasokreativ 33 points 4 months ago (3 children)

There are no mentions of dedicated ports to linux and mac, only that proton will be able to properly translate for them. That's not the same thing.

[–] monolalia 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

proton

Is that even an option on the Mac? And “Proton games” wouldn’t show the Mac and SteamOS platform icon on the Steam store.

We're also releasing Civilization VII for MacOS and Linux / SteamOS. However, we don't have specs to share for those platforms at this time.

Source: https://x.com/CivGame/status/1841885325528043648

Now whether all this is just a mix-up in this age of “Linux ports aren’t worth it and they always suck anyway”… maybe.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

We'll see if they actually create ports or just mean general compatibility through translation layers. Idk about proton on apples.

[–] woelkchen 2 points 4 months ago

We’ll see if they actually create ports or just mean general compatibility through translation layers.

Proton compatibility doesn't result in a Linux/SteamOS icon on Steam.

[–] monolalia 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Seems pretty clear to me: “We’re also releasing Civilization VII for MacOS and Linux / SteamOS” doesn’t just not mention Proton, there also isn’t a Proton on MacOS Steam. And you don’t get Linux and Mac system sepcs and platform icons on Windows-only games on Steam whether or not you can run them with Proton; you get ”Steam Deck Verified”.

(I’m half expecting them to walk that back later but for now the message seems clear.)

[–] ichbinjasokreativ -1 points 4 months ago

I see. Well, you might be right after all, but they should've phrased it better.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

mentions ... only that proton will be able to properly translate for them

Where is that mentioned?

[–] ichbinjasokreativ -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Literally the snippet posted by op.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

What OP quoted doesn’t mention Proton at all and there is no Proton on Mac (at least built into the Steam client)

[–] ichbinjasokreativ -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Not explicitly, but they say they will release it on steam "which also supports mac and linux". How do you think it does that? Through proton.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Steam also supports native games and not just Windows games. And it does not have Proton on Mac.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I give up. Your arguments are sound, but ultimatly we'll have to wait and see.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah. For all we know they could be shipping Wine along with the Mac version themselves and use Proton on Linux…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Not explicitly

You said it "mentions ... only that proton will". Now you're saying it doesn't mention proton.

How do you think it does that? Through proton.

The issue is not about how games might be able to run but about what you wrote in your comment.

[–] woelkchen 0 points 4 months ago

There are no mentions of dedicated ports to linux and mac, only that proton will be able to properly translate for them. That’s not the same thing.

Stop lying