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Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah killed after Beirut airstrikes (news.sky.com)

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[–] Keeponstalin 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Most people don't have the same history with Palestine and Israeli forces. And no, they don't want genocide, that's incredibly disingenuous. Not to mention you never apply that same lens about aggression to the actions of Israel. I don't agree with Hezbollah at all when it comes to a solution, I think Israelis and Palestinians need to have a Secular One-State with equal rights for both, displacing Israelis is not a solution anymore than displacing Palestinians.

Anti-Zionism and Israel (Chapter 7)

Hizbu’llah’s reluctance to grant Israel recognition is rooted in its rendition of the origins of the Israeli state, which it unequivocally portrays as a ‘rape’ or ‘usurpation’ of Palestinian land, there by rendering it a state which ‘is originally based on aggression’. By extension, the continued existence of the Israeli state constitutes ‘an act of aggression’, insofar as it represents a perpetuation of the original act of aggression. Therefore, Hizbu’llah ‘does not know of anything called Israel’. It only knows a land called ‘occupied Palestine’. In fact, the party never refers to the state of Israel as such, but to ‘occupied Palestine’ or ‘the Zionist entity’.

pg 134

Based on the party’s delegitimisation of the Israeli state, its excoria-tion of Israeli state and society and its emphasis on the Zionist essence of both, certain existential elements of Hizbu’llah’s conflict with Israel can be readily discerned. Upon closer examination of these elements, the following three existential themes emerge: the party’s legitimisation of the use of violence against an essentially Zionist society; its rejection of the notion of a negotiated peace settlement with the Israeli state; and its pursuit of the liberation of Palestine.

pg 142

According to the party, this aspiration to return ‘every grain of Palestinian soil’ to its rightful owners necessitates Israel’s ‘oblit-eration from existence’. Put simply, the reconstitution of one state is contingent upon the annihilation of another. The only way that the Palestinians can return to Jerusalem, and the ‘original Palestineof 1948’ generally, is for all Jews, with the exception of those native to Palestine, to ‘leave this region and return to the countries from whence they came’

pg 162

Hizbu'llah: Politics and Religion by Amal Saad-Ghorayeb

[–] FlowVoid -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Not to mention you never apply that same lens about aggression to the actions of Israel.

Sure I can. For example, Israel attacked Iran with an airstrike. That's an act of war. When Iran retaliated, nobody pretended the victim was the aggressor like they are now with Israel and Hezbollah.

I think Israelis and Palestinians need to have a Secular One-State with equal rights for both

Unfortunately I think that would be very difficult in practice. How to ensure it remains secular?

[–] Keeponstalin 1 points 1 month ago

People are pretending that Israel is the victim. A victim of blowback, sure. But ignoring that Israel is the one doing settler Colonialism, an Apartheid, and now a genocide in Gaza for nearly a year, does not magically make them the victim