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Even in a political era defined by demented characters and strange shit, nothing could have prepared me for this.

We live in the stupidest timeline, y’all.

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[–] dojan 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No because politics has been a fucking joke my entire lifetime. I’m 29. It’s been a long farce and it shows no signs of stopping.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As someone 10 years older than you, let me tell you: the Bill Clinton campaign was amazing. Like, completely forget whatever you think you know about him being a womanizer for a moment...

Clinton went onto a late night talk show geared to black audiences (The Arsenio Hall Show) and played jazz saxophone live like Duke Silver. Clinton, in the typical politician suit, would get on stage and rip a blue streak of reedy sex in front of the house band. In the '90s, everyone jokingly called him the first black president.

At a town hall against George Bush Sr., a black woman asked a question how national debt impacted each of them individually. GB fumbled in his response, but Clinton deftly jumped into show he wasn't out of touch. Collective memory repaints this moment as Clinton with his steely blue eyes stepping forward and saying, "I feel your pain," in a lilting cadence and bit his lip empathizingly. It was noteworthy that a politician was saying "I see you, I hear you" at this kind of event.

And myself being a child in the '90s, Clinton talked to young people about the role they play in democracy and the future of America in a way that had me believing that I could vote for him at the age of 10. Every other politician up to then had talked about children like they weren't in the same room watching the same news as their parents. After becoming president, Clinton went onto Nickelodeon and did a town hall with preteens and teens about smoking that walked that line between getting lectured at and being invested in. It was hosted by a Nickelodeon journalist named Linda Ellerbee who had a show that presented the news to kids for 25 years. Clinton's directed messaging to children probably came from his own experience of having met JFK when he was in his teens as part of a leadership program he was selected for. Shaking JFK's hand and getting to talk with him has been described as the moment young William Jefferson Clinton knew he would one day run for president.

I'm sad we haven't had a politician like this in a terribly long time. I will say though that from a couple of videos I've seen, Obama has been great with children and Biden really talks to kids in ways that show that they will one day be adults. I've never seen them just use kids as political props in a kiss the baby and smile for the photo, then hand over the kid back to the parent like the kid is plutonium.

I will add here that when I first wrote this up and then went to go find source links, it stood out to me how much of my memories were inaccurate compared to the videos I found. I am going to chalk part of this up to the Mandela Effect, but also part of it to remembering the impact these moments had on me and the way these moments were played up in the immediate retelling in conversations at the dining table and from the media (such as SNL who parodied Clinton for well over 10 years). It's weird to think that my memories are wrong, but I think it speaks more to the legendary status of Clinton before his scandals broke out and he was impeached.

[–] dojan 1 points 1 year ago

GB fumbled in his response,

That's putting it very mildly. He tried to redirect and deflect but did a piss poor job of doing it. "I'm not sure I understand the question." My man, you definitely understand the question, you don't have a good answer for it. "How" is a question a toddler could understand.

It's honestly more baffling to me that there was a time where politicians could express a modicum of eloquence, didn't shout, or result to personal attacks on opponents less than 100% of the time, because that's where we are today. Clinton facing backlash at having an employee of his nosh him off, as a wedded man, and that actually having consequences for him, is downright stunning. Instead, we now have politicians bragging about sexually harrassing and groping women, publicly, and they get lauded for it!

In my country we have politicians that assaulted a comedian with an iron pipe and they're in parliament now, a coalition government with the most milquetoast and incompetent conservatives I've ever seen. I don't even know what the point is, sowing seeds of indifference perhaps?