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[–] TheBat 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They want to destroy a city by means of chemical warfare. They're absolutely terrorist jfc did you even see the movie?

[–] FlyingSquid -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I thought we were talking about a character that's the head of a league of assassins, not the actual plot of the movie. You know that the movie didn't have to have that plot, right? You realize it's not some sort of requirement to make that specific Batman story, yes?

[–] TheBat 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

....What even is your point? In almost every iteration Ra's al Ghul is trying to destroy Gotham (or Star City in case of CW's Arrow). He's absolutely a terrorist.

[–] FlyingSquid -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Apart from the many, many, many Batman stories where he isn't.

He even teams up with Batman sometimes.

Maybe the problem here is you don't actually read the comics.

[–] TheBat 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

OK, do the analysis of how many stories/continuities/universes have him as a terrorist vs how many have him as an ally. If you can split the latter criteria into 'was never a terrorist', 'was a terrorist but is now a repentant ally', 'never even murdered anyone' then even better.

Include pie chart if possible.

[–] FlyingSquid -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You don't even know his comics biography and you're demanding that. 🙄

A few seconds at Wikipedia could tell you his basic motivations, which are not terrorism:

Raʼs al Ghul is an international criminal mastermind whose ultimate goal is a world in perfect environmental balance. He believes that the best way to achieve this balance is to eliminate most of humanity

He's not trying to scare anyone, just kill them and everyone they know. He doesn't care whether or not there's any terror. It doesn't even enter into the equation for him.

The fact that you don't even know that and you've been arguing with me this whole time about him being a terrorist is hilarious.

Next time, maybe learn about Batman before you argue about Batman.

[–] TheBat 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He believes that the best way to achieve this balance is to eliminate most of humanity

That sounds like terrorism to me 🙄

[–] FlyingSquid -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do you remember your own definition? In what way is that intended to cause fear?

[–] TheBat 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

I'd say murdering people to achieve 'balance' counts as terrorism. Which is what Ra's al Ghul does.

Anyway, goodbye. You're being a clown. And not a funny one either.

[–] FlyingSquid -1 points 2 months ago

Ah, so you're going with a different definition than the one you initially gave me. How blatantly dishonest of you. I'm not surprised you're hiding behind silly insults.