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[–] tomi000 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

You do realise none of the examples you brought up are actual communism. Theyre all bad attempts that were taken advantage of.

Thats like saying religion in general is bad because christianity ruined it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You realize that what you're saying is basically "communism isn't bad, all communist countries that failed just were communism that was being taken advantage of by assholes"

The exact same thing can be said about capitalism

Done well, with laws limiting it correctly, capitalism mixed with socialism sounds nice. Limit how much capital a single person can own and control using taxes, use those taxes for a social system where all the basics have been taken care of. Free healthcare, education, baosc housing, basic food.

[–] tomi000 1 points 5 days ago

Yes of course I realize it and Im often saying exactly that. The problem is when capital equals political power, which results in a downward spiral where as large a portion of the population as possible is kept at the bare minimum of survival for the benefit of the few.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

You do realise none of the examples you brought up are actual communism. Theyre all bad attempts that were taken advantage of.

The PRC and the USSR are and were real examples of Actually Existing Socialism. They absolutely ran into problems, and no Communist can simply look away and say they didn't Communism hard enough. That goes directly against the Dialectical Materialist theory of knowledge.

The PRC and USSR also brought democratization, doubled life expectancies, 99%+ literacy rates, ended famine, and drastically reduced wealth inequality. As much as we must learn from their failures, we must learn from their myriad successes.

I highly encourage you to read Blackshirts and Reds.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Religion is bad in general and Christianity is an example of why it is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Buddhism is pretty alright though, isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Hmmmm. And Shintoism?

Edit: I'm being cheeky. Looks like religion turns itself into tribalism when a certain population point is reached.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 1 points 4 months ago

It’s neither good or bad.