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TL;DR

  • The European Council has ended its adoption procedure for rules related to phones with replaceable batteries.
  • By 2027, all phones released in the EU must have a battery the user can easily replace with no tools or expertise.
  • The regulation intends to introduce a circular economy for batteries.
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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (8 children)

I don‘t know how to feel about this. While It’s nice to be able to replace the battery, I very much prefer the durability of todays phones over those flimsy removable back plates that used to be common in the 00s.

I really hope they mean that no special tools/skill are required. They should just standardize one type of micro screwdriver that everyone has to use.

Replaceable batteries inevitably also have to be sturdier s.t. they don‘t pose a fire hazard, making the entire phone bulkier or reducing battery life.

My iPhone XR is now over 4 years old and battery capacity is still at 80%, getting me through the day easily.
Before that I had an iPhone 4s where I replaced the battery after ~6 years. I was really disappointed with the new battery and ended up buying a new phone anyway after a few weeks.

My phone is the device that I use the most by a huge margin. It doesn‘t bother me too much if I have to replace it every 5-6 years. And I‘m pretty environmetally conscious in general.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah those old Nokia's are notoriously flimsy because of the removable batteries 🤦‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Yeah. If you owned one and don't get all your information from memes on reddit, they were incredibly flimsy. It was all cheap ass plastic that was clipped in, they would break and your phone would be heald together by hopes and dreams.

[–] ayyndrew 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I get what you're saying, but removable batteries and flimsy plastic backs don't have to go hand in hand. The LG V20 had a metal back and a removable battery

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah I had a V10 and it was one of the most premium devices I've ever felt. And the best sound quality from a phone, too.

[–] moitoi 11 points 11 months ago

The Galaxy Xcover pro has a good durability, is IP68 and has a removable battery. It's a matter of willingness.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Gee, I can't understand how my lgg3 is still in one piece, what with that replaceable battery making it so flimsy.

It's almost as if I'm imagining it being able to turn on because it fell apart when I sat it on the table three years ago.

Good thing it broke back then! Otherwise, I might have spent tens of dollars on replacement batteries each year!

Not to mention all the tablets that broke because they were flimsy with replaceable batteries. The galaxytab 2 and 3 alone would have blown up from materials fatigue if I'd replaced those batteries over the years. Whew, what a relief I don't have to have them in use as digital picture frames like I would have otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

My Galaxy S5 never felt flimsy. It was even highly waterproof for the time because it had a COVER for the USB Port attached to the phone! It even had a gasp HEADPHONE JACK!

[–] dan1101 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I didn't know the USB port had a cover. I bought mine used but excellent condition, apparently other than the port cover. My S5 had a brief dip in a river and never charged again. :(

[–] electriccars 2 points 11 months ago

Good thing you had a removable battery so you could charge the battery outside the phone lol

[–] Elcapitan786 1 points 11 months ago

It also looked and felt cheap. HTC did the best solution but back was metal so no wireless charging. I would prefer a back cover like the nexus 5 or lg g4

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Of my last three phones battery has not been the issue I disposed. Mostly it is they grind to halt software wise as they fail to cope with newer apps expectations for storage or ram, I change my phone every 3 to 4 years.

[–] electriccars 1 points 11 months ago

Give me a phone with a removable battery in the style of the HTC Sensation 4G. Sexy, metal, easy to open and swap the battery. It was an incredible device that I remember using fondly.

[–] c0mplexx 1 points 11 months ago

Flimsy? have you tried the LG V20?