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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)
  • practical: I don't have any delusions that the US will implement leftism more extreme than EU style socialist policies any time soon

The EU doesn't have socialist policies, you're referring to social safety nets.

  • socialist: I feel the government should be involved more in regulating industries, owning certain categories of services, moderating excess wealth, and ensuring the financial/economic well-being of citizens, as opposed to the conservative style which is basically 'well, if you're poor then fuck off'.

So you're talking Social Democracy, like the Nordics, not Socialism.

[–] zeppo 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not precisely as I mentioned public ownership of some industries and services that are privately owned. Healthcare and drug production would be two good examples.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Those are found in the nordics, that's still dependent on Capitalism as the basis unless you also want to entirely restructure government.

[–] zeppo 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd love for the US economic system to somehow be wholly restructured, but incremental improvements are the best we can do currently.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Not really, we have no actual control over policy.

[–] NoMadMan -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Look, people have been debating the definition of socialism for decades, and you guys are not going to figure out here today on Lemmy World.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

its pretty settled actialy, its the worker ownership of the means of production

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's not a debate so much as a propaganda war where every state is lying.