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submitted 3 months ago by Linkerbaan to c/aboringdystopia

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So, if I extend your logic, if ISIS is America's fault ( which in many ways it is) we should have left Iraq and Syria to succumb to it?

[–] Moneo 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, US imperialism is responsible for much of what is going on in the middle east. I'm not going to pretend to know enough about those conflicts to answer your question, but I'm not exactly sure how it's relevant. But as a general rule, yeah the US should fuck off and stop interfering in other countries. It never helps and it's never truly motivated by selfless goals. America does not support Israel because Israel is "good", they support Israel because it's their proxy base in the middle east. Hence why not even Democrats give a fuck that their "closest ally" is murdering children daily.

The US should absolutely stop funding Israel and Israel should immediately withdraw from the Gaza, the West Bank, and its illegal settlements. Not sure what you expected me to say.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I'll just open with saying that I agree with your main point. Of course Israel is an ally of US, and US uses Israel to further their own gains in the region. The same can be said about literally any country in the world, though. It's just the military & economic power of the US, and going against is a dangerous game to play. I am not defending or saying that US is good, I am just stating the obvious. Even China is not always able to stand against the US.

Now to continue to my main point:

I’m not going to pretend to know enough about those conflicts to answer your question, but I’m not exactly sure how it’s relevant.

The point I was trying to make is that Israel-Palestine conflict is hyperfocused on, in a region that is extremely unstable and seen dozens of civil & international wars, coups & human rights abuses over the last few decades. Fighting ISIS killed thousands of civilians and displaced, at least, several million people. And while ISIS comitted many crimes against humanity, Russian & NATO bombs have also killed thousands of civilians. But people don't even know this. And don't seem to care.

Should I also talk about Kurds, who were also fighting that war (against ISIS) and despite that Turks are literally borderline genociding them whenever they get the chance, these people do not resort to terrorism?

It makes you wonder, why in this sea of instability, wars, coups and human rights abuses everyone hyperfocuses on one particular state, which is primarily inhabited by people who have been historically persecuted, killed and displaced consistently for thousands of years?

[–] Moneo 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're wondering why the west is hyperfocused on a genocide being committed by a nation state that is backed, funded, and armed by the united states?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

And, say, Turkey isn't?