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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The modern Ford ranger is the same size as the F-150 from 2004.

Now if you want to buy a Ford ranger size truck you have to buy the Ford Maverick, which costs ~$35,000.

It's fucking madness and I don't know a single company that hasn't lost the plot.

[–] xpinchx 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tbf I bought a new GTI in 2017 for 22k. I just checked and 2024 MSRP is 33k.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you look from the 90s to today car price inflation is lower than general inflation

[–] xpinchx 3 points 1 month ago

I only have anecdotal data but that doesn't line up with my experience... But you might also be right.

In 2004 I bought a new Honda Civic (base trim) for $13k USD. Adjusted for inflation that's about 22.5k. Starting MSRP for a 2024 civic is apparently $24k so it's not too far off. If you factor in what you actually get, most new cars have backup cameras, sensors, collision avoidance, blind spot monitoring, better safety and presumably better handling and power deliver and efficiency. It's not that bad of a deal I suppose.

My main hangup is the amount of dollars because my salary sure as shit hasn't doubled since 2004.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The modern Ford ranger is the same size as the F-150 from 2004.

Not if you're actually honest and compare trucks with the same features (4 doors, similar bed length).

Trucks are mostly higher than they were before, but their width and length hasn't increased as much as some people think as long as we compare trucks with the same features

2004 F150 crew cab, 5.5' bed:

  • Length: 224"
  • Height: 73.5"
  • Width: 78.9"

2023 Ford Ranger crew cab 6' bed:

  • Length: 210.8" (-13.2")
  • Height: 71.5" (-2")
  • Width: 73.3" (-5.6")
[–] lemming741 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are you telling me that 4 doors are longer than 2 doors?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Crazy right? Who would have thought that a mid size truck with four doors and a 6' bed would be longer than a full size truck with two doors and a 6' bed?

[–] lemming741 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah right pal, what's next- 6.5 is longer than 5.5?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What's funny is that the Ranger with the 6' bed is still more than a foot shorter than the 20 years old F150 crew cab with the 5.5' bed, so as I said, when you compare the two with the same features, the 20 years old F150 is bigger, people look at 4 doors mid size and compare them to regular cab short bed full size trucks and come to stupid conclusions...