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Source: Reddit: The "comic accurate Wolverine doesn't work, Deadpool & Wolverine proves it" argument has no ground.

You probably saw this argument being made if you saw any discussion about Wolverine's height after the movie came out: "Short Wolverine works in the comics, but doesn't work in movies, Deadpool 3 proves it."

There's so much stuff wrong with that point that I don't know where to start. But some point must be made first.

This rant is not about the height of Wolverine, but to show how this argument makes no sense and how it effectively has no thought behind it, but to evidence this, a quick paragraph explaining Wolverine's height is important:

Wolverine's name comes from the animal of the same name, a rather small animal capable of preying on bigger animals. A very ferocious creature. Wolverine is just like a wolverine. Small, ferocious, and takes down bigger creatures, like Wolverine facing off Hulk. In the comics we often see Wolverine just quietly in a bar being underestimated due to his height. They often call him "runt". The result is Wolverine cuts them.

Understanding that, one thing already enters in question about the "doesn't work" argument. What doesn't work? Wolverine was designed to be underestimated and then show his ferocity besides his size. What people that make this argument think Wolverine is the screen is supposed to look like?

Wait, there's more. That scene is not an honest scene. Movie magic works there to make a short Wolverine into a joke. People that make this arguments ignore camera angles, effects, the scenario, the extras and that:

The body double for "comic accurate" Wolverine is 4'11"/1,50cm. While Wolverine is 5'3"/1,60cm.

This part can be skipped due to being a little bit off-track:

spoilerCan it really be called comic accurate? See, if we got a recurring 1,50 Wolverine, we would probably call it comic accurate in relation to his height right? Even tho it's not exact and it's more than 5cm off. But I think for the context of this movie, it's insincere to call him comic accurate. For an one-off appearance, that the character is called comic accurate in relation to 1 specific characteristic, there's no reason not to get body double with the same height or roughly it. For a cast, we understand the demands are more complicated, and that somethings may be off due to all the different things that must be attended for such a role. So for a long lastign actor with that height, sure we would say he's comic accurate as far as being short. But Deadpool 3 does this as a joke, and not due to not being reasonable to restrict the height of who they would cast for a body double more. Do you agree with this? I do already have some counter points against this, because this is really something I'm questioning, can it really be called comic accurate?

With that the movie exaggerated his height for comedic effect. And it would be no problem at all if they brought a 1,50cm Wolverine to the screen, but they did that for a cheap joke.

Here's another thing you notice at the scene with Wolverines from the multiverse: Deadpool gets cut violently by all of them, except the one in the cross and "comic accurate" Wolverine.

Remember X-23 in Logan? https://giphy.com/gifs/xUA7bcVA6VKDBoBmtG. That's Wolverine. It works when they want to work don't they. Did you know that Dafne Keen is 1,60 currently? Did she look off in Deadpool 3?

The scene with "comic accurate" Wolverine was designed with ill-intent. To convince people that a short Wolverine wouldn't work. They do that by getting a body double shorter than Wolverine(and who knows what other tricks they do in that scene that we don't know about), getting him to be the only Wolverine that doesn't cut the shit out of Deadpool. Well, I think the crucified Wolverine didn't get to do that too(correct me if I'm wrong), guess a short Wolverine is as powerless as a crucified Wolverine. That's the message they were trying to send I believe.

I guess the creators of the movie, and those that use the "doesn't work" argument all are just like the guys that underestimate Wolverine in the comics because of his height.

EDIT: Other thing in question is, a common argument is that a short man with his body is impossible. And I think like, so the solution is to stick with a tall man and lose the core of the character? Is this body type more important than his height? No, right? The height has much more meaning than whether or not he weights 195lbs(without adamantium). Ok, stop here, not going to get into he doesn't need to be so big(muscle wise) and talking about gymnasts like Arthur Zanetti for big in muscle and being short. It's being the main point of the rant. But it's kinda hard to to mention it.


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[–] aodhsishaj 3 points 4 days ago

Short king dropped their crown.