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Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

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Arguments why Telegram is not a good idea for anyone (self.privacy)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by andylicious1337 to c/[email protected]

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Hi :) I know that Telegram is not save and not a good messenger if you are a privacy-geek. Sadly some parts of my family still think so. I brougth up the arguments, that they are cooperating with Russia, that they or closed-source on the server-side and that e2ee is not on by default and only available for 1-on-1 chats.

My question now is, if you gals and guys might have some other arguments or sources I could use.

I don't want to convince anyone to switch away from Telegram (because I am no missionary :D) I just want people to understand the risks of using Telegram.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can we be real for a minute though?

It's still better than not having it as an option.

By telegram existing, it diversifies the non private messaging landscape. It's obviously not better than actually secure and/or private services, but the more options that are out there, the less centralization there is, which is a net positive.

You just have to be aware of its limitations and don't use it for anything significant. In that regard it's no worse than something like discord.

You already covered the warnings about not trusting it for privacy or security, so that's really the beat you can do in informing people. Once you've done your due diligence for the people you care about, you gotta let them do what they're gonna do. It's either that or go hard and refuse to communicate on anything other than the services you deem best for your preferences and hope for the best

[–] andylicious1337 1 points 2 months ago

you are correct and it is true that it is better to have many options. Although it is a little iffy that still many people belive in the fact, that it is private and secure.

Also I totally agree on what you are saying: dont push people into something they dont want simply explain the possible downsides and move on.

I'd still wouldn' t use it so communicating with me is will still not be done via Telegramm :D