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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Republican Party: openly supports Israel and pushes for the genocide. Continues to fund Israel. States all of this stuff. Overt.

Democratic Party: covertly continues to fund Israel, but knows that they can’t publicly say that. So they frame it with bullshit platitudes like asking Netanyahu to “reduce civilian casualties”. They’ll use the term “ceasefire” but will never push a true ceasefire. Covert.

Obligatory notes:

  • No I’m not funded by Russia. I’m just some dude living in the US that has followed politics and police brutality stuff for ages.
  • No, I don’t support tankie shit; I follow socialist and Marxist philosophies, but authoritarianism can fuck all the way off.
  • Vote shaming is for people that can’t face reality. It’s anti-working class bullshit that the ruling class benefits from. It’s okay to criticize your party. They work for you.
  • I’m not magically endorsing Trump and the republicans because I stated some hard truths about the Democratic Party. If you think that’s the case, I implore you to put aside the kindergarten-level logic and get real.
[–] return2ozma 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Also, the Political Memes community temp banned me for the same meme because they didn't like it.

[–] TropicalDingdong 3 points 2 months ago

It's because they are trying to filter for an agenda.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Sounds like some liberal shit. The same folks that probably shame third party voters and are okay with third parties being blocked from getting a place on the ballot.

[–] return2ozma 1 points 2 months ago

Your notes are spot on.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Which one of these options do you think would be worse for the Palestinian people? The one who very overtly wants them dead, or the one who covertly sells weapons to their murderers to feed the military industrial complex and keep deep-seated US alliances strong?

It's not a hard question.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m gonna wager that the result is the same at the end of the day because the same amount of bombs fall. I see a trend. “Delayed”, “temporarily delayed”, “threatened to withhold”.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why? We have one person telling them "don't do that" and another encouraging them saying "Go harder" and you really don't think there's gonna be a difference in the actions the IDF takes?

Israel needs the US as an ally to continue doing what it does, and if their actions become completely indefensible to the US people (they haven't yet; people are stupid) they will lose that alliance, so long as a Democrat is in office. Trump has ALREADY shown his willingness to ally with dictators, but his voters literally just don't believe it. Just as they won't believe that the "most moral army in the world" is committing genocide. Quite literally the only possible way that this situation improves for Palestine is a Kamala presidency, somebody who is actually calling for a 2 state solution and ceasefire instead of "kill those dang muslims".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Hey, I’ll take any ceasefire at this point. If she goes through with it, I’m all for it. But history doesn’t make me optimistic, and she’s using the same 2 state solution stuff we’ve heard before and it sounds like appeasement.

The US has gone so deep on this venture that backing out risks basically everything. Members of the Knesset have already stated that if Netanyahu agrees to anything that stops or reduces the genocide, they’ll kickoff a coup. So I’m not optimistic that any president in our lifetime will finally put an end to this, and words amount to nothing.