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Multiple Life Sentences for Minor in Police Shooting He did not Participate in. (lemmy.world)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The rule here is that if you are committing some kind of feeling, and ~~someone dies as a result~~ a cop murders somebody, then you are guilty of the cop's murder.

FTFY

This bypasses all of the usual intent filters between first degree murder, second degree murder, and manslaughter... in order for police to pin their murders on minorities despite all reason and case history.

FTFY.

[–] calcopiritus 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Your argument only holds up if the cop isn't also tried for that murder. I'm not even an American citizen so I don't know if that's the case.

Doesn't matter if the cop would be tried though, as cops are already immune to the law in america. They don't need to convict other people for that. I don't think at all that the purpose of that law is to protect cops.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 2 points 2 months ago

Your argument only holds up if the cop isn’t also tried for that murder.

The U.S. Supreme Court rules in favor of officers accused of excessive force

The two cases concerned police officers accused of using excessive force when responding to domestic disturbances. In one, officers used beanbag rounds and a knee on the suspect's back to subdue him; in the second, officers shot and killed the suspect after he approached them while raising a hammer.

Both decisions the court issued Monday were unsigned. No justices dissented.

[–] damnedfurry 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Cop murdered no one. Shooting someone who's charging at you with a drawn weapon isn't murder.

[–] 9bananas -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

if it isn't murder, then why is the kid charged with it?? that makes the entire thing even MORE ridiculous!

[–] damnedfurry 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

"Felony murder" is a different animal. It's kind of like how even though "rape" is generally defined by a lack of consent, there is also "statutory rape", which one can be charged with, even if the sex was consensual.

To summarize how "felony murder" works:

The felony murder rule is a rule that allows a defendant to be charged with first-degree murder for a killing that occurs during a dangerous felony, even if the defendant is not the killer. The felony murder rule applies only to those crimes that are considered “inherently dangerous,” as the rationale underlying the felony murder rule is that certain crimes are so dangerous that society wants to deter individuals from engaging in them altogether. Thus, when a person participates in an inherently dangerous crime, he or she may be held responsible for the fatal consequences of that crime, even if someone else caused the actual death.

In this case, the "inherently dangerous" felony was armed robbery.

[–] 9bananas -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

that's a ridiculous concept from start to finish:

"you stood near a cop when he killed someone, so now you're a murderer even though you objectively didn't kill anyone and we know who the actual killer is"

this is completely insane.

it's not "a different animal", it's insanity.

just insanity.

[–] damnedfurry 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"you stood near a cop"

What disingenuous bullshit, lol. A bystander would never get charged with this, only other people actively committing the same felony with the criminal that died (and it doesn't matter if they were killed by a cop or died any other way, including accident, if it happened while committing a dangerous felony, all of the criminals committing it are responsible), fuck your goalpost move attempt.