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Would you buy "self-hosted in a box" hardware? (self.selfhosted)
submitted 2 months ago by EliRibble to c/selfhosted
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I'm considering a business plan for people getting in to self-hosting. Essentially I sell you a Mikrotik router and a refurbished tiny x86 server. The idea is that the router plugs in to your home internet and the server into the router. Between the two they get the server able to handle incoming requests so that you can host services on the box and address them from the broader Internet.

The hypothesis is that $150 of equipment to avoid dozens of hours of software configuration is a worthwhile trade for some customers. I realize some people want to learn particular technologies and this is a bad fit for them. I think there are people out there that want the benefit of self-hosting, and may find it worth it to buy "self-hosting in a box".

What do you think? Would this be a useful product for some people?

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[–] breakingcups 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No. People who want the benefit of self housing without worrying about hardware will rent a vps or something simpler. The hard part of hardware isn't the purchase, it's the maintenance.

Also, why the separate router?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I agree with this. Self-hosting requires the user to understand their network, their software, how it all interacts.

If you provide a hardware product and call it a solution, people are going to expect a turn-key solution like a plug-and-play router.

You're going to end up supporting a bunch of newbies who, by no fault of their own, can't tell you an error code in the console let alone whatever UI you give them.

I think a better solution would be a course that walks newbies through self hosting.

[–] EliRibble 1 points 2 months ago

People who want the benefit of self housing without worrying about hardware will rent a vps or something simpler.

That's certainly an option. I think of dedicated hardware as working for several different people, some of which care a great deal about not using a VPS provider because they don't trust them with their data, or don't trust them to be around for a long time, or don't trust them not to raise the prices.

The hard part of hardware isn’t the purchase, it’s the maintenance.

I'm inclined to agree, but I've been doing hardware for a long time as a hobbyist and I sometimes forget how far I've come. It sounds like you might be somewhat like me in that regard. I'm often surprised when people see assembling system parts and flashing an OS as a complex, inscrutable task.

What do you see as the hard part of maintenance? Scheduling time to do it? Unexpected errors or failures?