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My problem with atheism (self.atheism)

submitted 2 months ago by platypus_plumba to c/atheism

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First of all, I have more in common with atheists than religious people, so my intention isn't to come here and attack, I just want to hear your opinions. Maybe I'm wrong, I'd like to hear from you if I am. I'm just expressing here my perception of the movement and not actually what I consider to be facts.

My issue with atheism is that I think it establishes the lack of a God or gods as the truth. I do agree that the concept of a God is hard to believe logically, specially with all the incoherent arguments that religions have had in the past. But saying that there's no god with certainty is something I'm just not comfortable with. Science has taught us that being wrong is part of the process of progress. We're constantly learning things we didn't know about, confirming theories that seemed insane in their time. I feel like being open to the possibilities is a healthier mindset, as we barely understand reality.

In general, atheism feels too close minded, too attached to the current facts, which will probably be obsolete in a few centuries. I do agree with logical and rational thinking, but part of that is accepting how little we really know about reality, how what we considered truth in the past was wrong or more complex than we expected

I usually don't believe there is a god when the argument comes from religious people, because they have no evidence, but they could be right by chance.

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[–] platypus_plumba 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Just because I'm arguing doesn't mean it is in bad faith. I enjoy standing my ground and seeing what comes out of it. Otherwise it isn't actually a discussion. I do feel some people are getting triggered by this, but I don't care, I'm being respectful and explaining things the way I see them.

Maybe this is a bad habit of mine, but it's when the good stuff happens. I've actually learned a lot through my stubbornness in this post.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yea, I hope that learning a few things ( like that you either believe or not believe in sth., or that extraordinary things need extraordinary evidence or else they can be dismissed) led to you stop "standing your ground". Thats what learning and expanding ones knowledge is all about.

If not, if you still stubornly repeat your opinion without taking the well described points into consideration, you are not discussing in good faith, you are ragebaiting.

[–] platypus_plumba 0 points 2 months ago

I guess if my opinion makes them angry, they could have stopped with an "agree to disagree". Personally, arguing doesn't make me rage.

So I'll give this to you before you get angry, let's agree to disagree.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You’ve refused to listen to what anyone has tried to explain to you and just keep regurgitating the same nonsense. It isn’t a discussion. You had your mind made before you made the post and choose to be deliberately ignorant. That is bad faith.

[–] platypus_plumba 1 points 2 months ago

I guess I can't change your mind about that.