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Which protocol or open standard do you like or wish was more popular? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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There are a couple I have in mind. Like many techies, I am a huge fan of RSS for content distribution and XMPP for federated communication.

The really niche one I like is S-expressions as a data format and configuration in place of json, yaml, toml, etc.

I am a big fan of Plaintext formats, although I wish markdown had a few more features like tables.

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[–] suigenerix 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yes and YYYY-MM-DD can potentially be interpreted as YYYY-DD-MM. So that is an zero argument.

No country uses "year day month" ordered dates as standard. "Month day year, " on the other hand, has huge use. It's the conventions that cause the potential for ambiguity and confusion.

That is great for your team, but I don't think that your team has a size large enough to have any kind of statistically relevance at all. So it is a great example for a specific use case but not an argument for general use at all.

Entire countries, like China, Japan, Korea, etc., use YYYY-MM-DD as their date standard already.

My point was that once you adjust, it actually isn't painful to use as it first appears it could be, and has great advantages. I didn't say there wasn't an adjustment hurdle that many people would bawk at.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_date_formats_by_country

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Entire countries, like China, Japan, Korea, etc., use YYYY-MM-DD as their date standard already.

And every person in those countries uses YYYY-MM-DD always in their day to day communication? I really doubt that. I am sure even in those countries most people will still use short forms in different formats.

[–] suigenerix 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, and their shorthand versions, like writing 9/4, have the same problem of being ambiguous.

You keep missing the point and moving the goal posts, so I'll just politely exit here and wish you well. Peace.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I never moved the goalposts, all I always said was that a forced and clunky date format like YYYY-MM-DD will never find broad use or acceptance in the major population of the world. It is not made for easy day to day use.

If it sounded like I moved goalposts, that maybe due to english as a second language. Sorry for that.

But yes, I think we both have made our positions and statements clear, and there is not really a common ground for us. Not because one of us would be right or wrong but because we are not talking about the topic on the same level of abstraction. I talk about it from a social, very down to the ground perspective and you are at least 2 levels of abstraction above that. Nothing wrong with that but we just don't see the same picture.

And yes using YYYY-MM-DD would be great, I don't say anything against that on a general level, I just don't ever see any chance for it used commonly.

So thank you for the great discussion and have a nice day.