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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Governance

What's the plan when the assault against the monero devs is launched?

The timeline is moving, the arrestation of Durov is a good marker of that.

Some devs are anonymous but that's not a plan, just countermeasures.

The fact that I am asking is a sign that the community does not know how it it will deal with the governance attacks coming up.

Remember, they got BTC via its governance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

What’s the plan when the assault against the monero devs is launched?

Some devs are anonymous but that’s not a plan, just countermeasures.

What such a plan could look like? I don't see other options except for staying anonymous...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I don't know exactly right now what the plan should look like. We could ask the general fund to have someone at least look at it and give recommendations. Someone in opsec, systems design or the likes would do.

The way I see it, a good way to neutralize monero is to first identity as many important participants as possible and then take the opportunity of the next 'crisis' to bash them very hard and associate them with the worst possible terrorists in the public opinion.

By important participants I don't mean just the core devs. I am talking about people like rbrunner, Justin, Rucknium, etc. All those that are the 5% making the 95% of impact in the ecosystem (compared to us consumers of their marvelous work). They currently don't think their threat level is very high, they should not have to hide anyway. But the issue is that when they will find monero keys for whatever CP ring they can seize that opportunity to frame all our ecosystem as supporters of CP and terrorism. Remember, it doesn't need to be true, just to be repeated again and again to the masses. After that you can just jail a few core devs, a few Dex operators and some event organizers to scare the little bunch back to their caves.

BTW the point is not to find a countermeasure yet but to put ourselves in the shoes of the adversaries and consider their options. The plan will itself come up after considering these points.

Tldr: let's ask the general fund to review our strategic opsec as a project.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Basic OPSEC is not very hard but needs investment in terms of time and money. Running something like Qubes with Whonix/I2P routers should do well enough in terms of traffic obfuscation, and backup and encryption strategies for keys should be the next level.

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