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Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.

Propaganda and disinformation are a big problem on the internet, and the Fediverse is no exception.

What's the difference between misinformation and disinformation? The inadvertent spread of false information is misinformation. Disinformation is the intentional spread of falsehoods.

By equipping yourself with knowledge of current disinformation campaigns by state actors, corporations and their cheerleaders, you will be better able to identify, report and (hopefully) remove content matching known disinformation campaigns.


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The X post in question is indeed authentic; the official @KamalaHarris X account originally published it on April 21, 2017, as part of a longer thread on the topic of immigration and citizenship. The full thread is as follows:

An undocumented immigrant is not a criminal.

Give people a path to citizenship. The vast majority of folks we're talking about are living a lawful life and paying taxes.

It's ludicrous to say we're going to deport 12 million people. Now how are you going to do that?

We are not a society that is going to stand for tearing families apart. We are not going to buy into this administration's fear mongering.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I will ensure America always has the strongest, most lethal fighting force in the world

From her DNC speech. She has never been progressive. The bombs will continue to drop, the drones will continue to strike, and immigrants will continue to be dehumanized because that is what is necessary to maintain the wealth and power of our country. Also her record as prosecutor is enough for me to know she is a POS

Also the genocide that she supports is pretty bad too obviously

[–] takeda 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Your problem is believing that on the world scene if one side acts rightful everyone else did. On reality other countries will fuck up anyone and exploit it.

Just see how Russia is fucking Ukraine even though it has very friendly relationship and the only thing it wanted is for Russia to respect their sovereignty.

Situation between Israel and Hamas is such that both sides want to wipe each other from the planet earth.

US usually is attacked by people for interfering in other countries, so when it isn't opting in to be a world police that's also bad?

Also her record as prosecutor is enough for me to know she is a POS

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2020/08/10/kamala-harris-progressive-pioneer-san-francisco-da-column/3334668001/

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

None of our wars are defensive nor are they for the benefit of the people of those countries. We go to war for resources and to keep the south impoverished so that they are most easily exploitable. We certainly cannot expect every country ever to act perfectly reasonably but it should be noted that not a single battle has been fought on american soil since the "battle" of wounded knee in 1890 and that was a slaughter. We have never been threatened militarily. We are not the world police and it is not our place to be exert our power over others to "save them". Living conditions only get worse after our invasions.

We slaughtered so many north koreans they lost 20% of their population. Bombers would come back without dropping any bombs because there weren't any targets left to hit. source 635,000 tons of bombs and 32,557 tons of napalm were used by the United States

There are no innocent civilians. It is their government and you are fighting a people, you are not trying to fight an armed force anymore. So it doesn't bother me so much to be killing the so-called innocent bystanders.

-General Curtis LeMay

More recently US claimed the presence of WMD in Iraq to justify their invasion but this was later proven false. source They also obviously used 9/11 to justify their invasion despite it being perpetrated by a saudi who directly quotes part of his motivation for the attack as being US culpability in the palestinian apartheid. Because of this at least 480,000 people died directly from violent causes during the war, including 244,000 civilians. source If deaths from disease, displacement, and destruction of infrastructure are also included, the death toll is around 2.4 million. source 43,000 Iraqis were detained, more than 70% of whom were innocent. source An unmentioned major long-term effect of the US invasion of Iraq is cancer and birth defects due to the US firing depleted uranium. Iraqi government figures show the following pattern regarding the rate of cancer cases: 40 people out of 100k prior to the First Gulf War (1991); 800 out of 100k (1995); >1,600 out of 100k (2005). source

We have no system to register all of them, so we have so many cases we are missing... I think I only know of 40-50 percent of the cases because so many families have their babies at home and we never know of these, and other clinics are not registering them either.

-Dr. Samira Alani

Some of the US war crimes in Iraq

I could go on, all of our invasions and genocides are like this

This does not seem like world policing to me, it doesn't seem like protecting civilians against an oppressive state apparatus that can't be reasoned with. To me it seems like we are the oppressive state that can't be reasoned with.

[–] takeda 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ok so this time US doesn't brings their troops to help Israel (like the other candidate wants), why is that bad?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I never said anything about Israel