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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Except B12 / cobalamin.

B12 is a ass of a nutrient. It doesn't even get absorbed properly.

But it's also availible in liquid form. So there's that - and tastes kinda nice too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (4 children)

You probably had bad luck with the manufacturer and what you're tasting is other substances. Pills have no issue, and liquid form seems like a weird way to get it orally. If you're referring to injections, sure.

B12 is always absorbed in tiny amounts orally, whatever or whoever you are eating.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Nono, I'm refering to the properties of B12 itself.

Its oral absorption is just very poor. Apparently only ~1%. So the doses must be immense. But humans only need miniscule amounts. The solution I use has 20,000% MRV. And most supplements have insanely high doses to solve this problem.

On the other hand: B12 is also available through dairy products or in egg-based foods. So it's usually only a problem if one is completly vegan and, as stated, easily subverted.

But you have to be aware of it. Because it's not "always absorbed in tiny amounts" just because you eat something. To quote Wikipedia:

Vitamin B12 is […] the only vitamin that must be sourced from animal-derived foods or supplements.

Also, cool hack:
It's also bright red and can color drinks. That's cool.

[–] veganpizza69 -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's a lot more to read about it than Wikipedia. The animal sourcing is unreliable too, those farm animals don't make it, they get it from being outside and eating from the soil and drinking from various natural water sources. That doesn't apply to most animal-based food products as those come from factory farms, which is why they supplement, usually as multivitamins. Those who aren't eating a plant-based diet are essentially consuming second-hand supplements, along with second-hand amino-acids, second-hand lipids, second-hand calories. And B12 deficiency is pretty big in many human populations, especially among older adults. Everyone should be supplementing, really. You should stop making it sound like it's difficult or disgusting, it isn't.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'm really sorry but that's straight up misinformation.

B12 is synthesized by certain bacteria. Plants do not create B12. Water does not somehow randomly contain B12. It's ONLY synthesized by bacteria.

I'm not even saying it's disgusting. I say it's easy to supplement. I'm not sure what's going on, but there seems to be a wild misunderstanding.

If Wikipedia is not for you, here's a random paper: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29216732 Please. It's not in water. It's not in dirt or floats around in outside air. I'm not saying it's disgusting. Quite the opposite, in fact. I'm just saying it has to be considered and vegans are more at risk in this particular way, that's easily treatable.

[–] veganpizza69 -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Maybe I wasn't clear, but you certainly have a lot more reading to do. You have a first year student's understanding of the issue.

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