Monday 12 Aug
- VeganTheoryClub defederates from Lemmy.ca after harrassment, and removes Lemmy.World based on concerns raised by vegans in the whitelist thread.
Thursday 15 Aug
- Post on !vegan@LW - Cat Lover Challenges Vegan Activist: Is Being Vegan Too Expensive?
Saturday 17 Aug
- Non-vegan LW member is banned from !vegan over comments in the post
Sunday 18 Aug
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LW Admin unbans non-vegan and restores comments removed by !vegan@LW mods
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!vegan@LW mods reverse admin actions, ban admin from community
Monday 19 Aug
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Admin unbans himself, removes !vegan mods. Restores non-vegan comments and removes vegan comments. (Modlog)
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Post on !vegan@VeganTheoryClub, !vegan@LW, and [email protected] - Lemmy world vegan community - hostile takeover
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LW Member asks for Rooki's removal - Asking for moderator Rooki's removal for misconduct - reposted in !vegan@LW
Wednesday 21 Aug
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Admin restores !vegan@LW mods back to their position.
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Admin modified his comment to an apology
Edit: I am sorry, about my emotional decision i reinstated @Eevoltic and @[email protected] as mods After researching myself, many non scientific sites say its not healthy and some say its unethical, one (1) research paper says it is at least NOT unhealthy, but it has few points of data and i didnt found any other scientific paper about this…
Wednesday 28 Aug
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Update to Terms of Service + New Bylaws (Protections for users)
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!vegan@LW respond with In light of Lemmy.World's new ToS regarding "unhealthy diets", here are some credible resources on that matter as it pertains to a plant-based diet in humans
updated
Saturday 31 Aug
- Lemmy.World posts an extended response - Moderation conflict involving c/vegan
Sunday 1 Sept
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!vegan@LW posts and pins Lemmy world vegan community - Future of community update, responding to LW's extended response and announcing tentative plans to close the community.
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SLRPNK Admins express solidarity with threadiverse vegans in their monthly meta post: SLRPNK Community Discussion - September 2024
Monday 2 Sept
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In response to LW's vegan drama Lemmy.zip confirms their position to only interfere in community moderation in the case of legal issues: Lemmy.zip Server Update September 2024
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@[email protected] is added by @[email protected] to the !vegan@LW mod team and posts Proposal for a weekly AskVegans sticky post
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naevaTheRat resigns as a mod of !vegan@LW
Friday 6 Sept
- [email protected] mods lock post Everyone became animal rights enthusiasts real fast... and create and pin Temporary rule: No shitposts on vegan pets and feeding them. After the rule change they remove two posts by non-vegans about feeding fish and scooby-doo vegan food.
Friday 13 Sept
- New !vegan@LW mod @TheTechnician27 posts and pins Recent happenings in !vegan@LW to clarify that a recent mod removal was over an internal disagreement with @[email protected], and was not initiated by LW admins.
Saturday 14 Sept
- @[email protected] account returns "couldnt_find_person" error
Except B12 / cobalamin.
B12 is a ass of a nutrient. It doesn't even get absorbed properly.
But it's also availible in liquid form. So there's that - and tastes kinda nice too.
You probably had bad luck with the manufacturer and what you're tasting is other substances. Pills have no issue, and liquid form seems like a weird way to get it orally. If you're referring to injections, sure.
B12 is always absorbed in tiny amounts orally, whatever or whoever you are eating.
Nono, I'm refering to the properties of B12 itself.
Its oral absorption is just very poor. Apparently only ~1%. So the doses must be immense. But humans only need miniscule amounts. The solution I use has 20,000% MRV. And most supplements have insanely high doses to solve this problem.
On the other hand: B12 is also available through dairy products or in egg-based foods. So it's usually only a problem if one is completly vegan and, as stated, easily subverted.
But you have to be aware of it. Because it's not "always absorbed in tiny amounts" just because you eat something. To quote Wikipedia:
Also, cool hack:
It's also bright red and can color drinks. That's cool.
There's a lot more to read about it than Wikipedia. The animal sourcing is unreliable too, those farm animals don't make it, they get it from being outside and eating from the soil and drinking from various natural water sources. That doesn't apply to most animal-based food products as those come from factory farms, which is why they supplement, usually as multivitamins. Those who aren't eating a plant-based diet are essentially consuming second-hand supplements, along with second-hand amino-acids, second-hand lipids, second-hand calories. And B12 deficiency is pretty big in many human populations, especially among older adults. Everyone should be supplementing, really. You should stop making it sound like it's difficult or disgusting, it isn't.
I'm really sorry but that's straight up misinformation.
B12 is synthesized by certain bacteria. Plants do not create B12. Water does not somehow randomly contain B12. It's ONLY synthesized by bacteria.
I'm not even saying it's disgusting. I say it's easy to supplement. I'm not sure what's going on, but there seems to be a wild misunderstanding.
If Wikipedia is not for you, here's a random paper: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29216732 Please. It's not in water. It's not in dirt or floats around in outside air. I'm not saying it's disgusting. Quite the opposite, in fact. I'm just saying it has to be considered and vegans are more at risk in this particular way, that's easily treatable.
Maybe I wasn't clear, but you certainly have a lot more reading to do. You have a first year student's understanding of the issue.
Sauerkraut and kimchi have B12