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Forces had no direct confrontation with Hamas terrorists who killed hostages; 'The IDF and security forces are doing everything possible to bring all hostages home as quickly as possible. This news shakes us all,' says army spokesperson Hagari

Israeli forces discovered the bodies of six hostages in a 65-foot-deep tunnel in Rafah, approximately a kilometer from where hostage Farhan Alkadi was recently freed. The IDF had no precise intelligence on the hostages' location in recent months but knew there were captives in the sector, leading to a gradual and cautious operation in Rafah since the ground offensive began.

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[–] answersplease77 7 points 2 months ago (14 children)

When the IDF rescued the only 4 hostages they did, they killed 300+ mostly women and kids including some more of their own hostages.

So that's why probably it was a no brainer for Hamas to indeed just execute them as soon as they figured they would be found, to save the lives of hundrends of innocents

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (12 children)

Why would the IDF's response be weaker if the hostages are dead?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (6 children)

We need clear good guys and bad guys, so if the IDF is the bad guys (which they certainly are) well that means Hamas must be the good guys (which they certainly are not) and thus this has to be some noble effort.

[–] Crow_Thief -5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

French people committed all sorts of terrorist acts against the nazis in the early days of WWII, were those french terrorists not the good guys in the conflict? If so, why wouldnt Hamas also be the good guys?

[–] Manifish_Destiny 14 points 2 months ago

Not necessarily. Crimes against the innocent are pretty fucking hard to justify.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

The French "terrorists" weren't trying to provoke Germany into killing as many French as possible to win a propaganda in the US, for starters.

These are not even vaguely the same situations.

[–] xhrit 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The terror attacks against jews in the levant started in the 1850s, as a protest against the tanzimat reforms which granted jews equal rights in the ottoman empire. Before the tanzimat reforms jews were legally second class citizens.

Ever hear the saying "Equality feels like oppression to the privileged?" The founding father and first president of palestine, Raj Amin Al-Husani, the person who signed the palestinian declaration of independence and the declaration of war against israel in 1948, was a member of the richest land owning family in plaestine and next in line to inherit the throne of jersulem, which was given to his family as a wedding gift by the profit Muhammid when the family's head married the profit Muhammid's daughter Fatima after the islamic conquest of jersulem.

"Raj" is a title. It means "prince".

The tanzimat reforms were a direct result of the patriarch of the Al-Husani clan getting offended and killing a group of christian pilgrims for displaying non-islamic holy symbols in public in jerusalem, which angered the Pope so much he threatened the ottomens with a trade embargo from christian nations unless equal rights were granted to people of other faiths.

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