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Don't call me a climate denier (710wor.iheart.com)

submitted 2 months ago by Letsdothis to c/[email protected]

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Take a look at these quotes from articles from the past 120 years. What can we make from them? Is climate change actually a big of a deal as it's claimed? The fact that "climate change" is such political issue gives me doubt. Any political talking point should always be scrutinized and criticized. Politicians have an agenda and will use anything they can to push that agenda.

I'm not here to argue about climate change being real or not. Rather, I would like opinions about the website I shared

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[–] Bluetreefrog 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would ask for a link, but I won't bother because you asked for opinions about the website not a debate about the validity of climate change.

However, when I responded to your question about the website, you then stated "I feel like time, energy, and money could be better spent on other things. Like cleaning up the oceans."

Looks to me like you are sealioning.

[–] Letsdothis -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A link to what? The website shows excerpts from articles claiming global warming or global cooling, including saying things like "scientific fact/consensus" about the subject. It's showing that this narrative of global climate change is nothing new.

Everyone can determine what that might imply about the subject for themselves.

[–] Bluetreefrog 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A link to the primary source research. All you have provided is unverified claims about "he said, she said" from a questionable source. That's not science.

[–] Letsdothis -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not about science here or any particular scientific research... it's about how media outlets have been publishing articles by authors who claim the earth is warming or cooling and we are doomed very soon. And that this type of climate fear mongering (also, true or not, it is fear mongering) has been going around since 1900.

[–] Bluetreefrog 5 points 2 months ago

You seem to be either looking for someone to agree with you that a website by some scientific nobody casts the predictions about the dire outlook because of climate change into doubt. If so, you are in the wrong community and are definitely sealioning and attempting to spread misinformation.

As I've said repeatedly, informed people don't look at websites like that, because they know they are used to generate FUD.

I've lived the consequences of climate change. I've fought fires burning in rainforest, where it has NEVER before burned. I've seen fires and floods unprecedented in scale. We are seeing warming 5 standard deviations above average. If you know a little about data science as you seem to imply, you know exactly what that means. The warning signs are clear and present. I'm past the point of giving people like Mark Simone the slightest benefit of the doubt.

Despite the narrative from mouthpieces like Mark Simone, the IPCC is actually a VERY conservative body. They have to release information which is able to stand up to rigorous scrutiny and challenge, and not upset established interests like governments and fossil fuel companies too much.

To quote the latest IPCC report (my emphasis added):

Human activities, principally through emissions of greenhouse gases, have unequivocally caused global warming, with global surface temperature reaching 1.1°C above 1850-1900 in 2011-2020. Global greenhouse gas emissions have continued to increase, with unequal historical and ongoing contributions arising from unsustainable energy use, land use and land-use change, lifestyles and patterns of consumption and production across regions, between and within countries, and among individuals (high confidence).

Widespread and rapid changes in the atmosphere, ocean, cryosphere and biosphere have occurred. Human-caused climate change is already affecting many weather and climate extremes in every region across the globe. This has led to widespread adverse impacts and related losses and damages to nature and people (high confidence). Vulnerable communities who have historically contributed the least to current climate change are disproportionately affected (high confidence).

Adaptation planning and implementation has progressed across all sectors and regions, with documented benefits and varying effectiveness. Despite progress, adaptation gaps exist, and will continue to grow at current rates of implementation. Hard and soft limits to adaptation have been reached in some ecosystems and regions. Maladaptation is happening in some sectors and regions. Current global financial flows for adaptation are insufficient for, and constrain implementation of, adaptation options, especially in developing countries (high confidence).