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what's up with the ToS changes regarding the vegan community? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/outoftheloop

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What happened in the vegan community?

I hadn't heard about any of this until seeing that ToS post.

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[+] davepleasebehave -8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

but I'm asking a simple question: if the cat enjoys the food, and it has all the nutrition the cat requires for a healthy life, would you have any objection?

[–] Sarmyth 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If it actually enjoyed it, sure. But I believe it would be a substantial lowering of their quality of life. Seeing the difference between how happy my cats are with their normal food vs wet cat food vs churu treats, it's plain as day they have preferences. While they can survive with proper nutrients, they won't have as fulfilling a life by limiting their food source in such a manner.

I won't talk about what's natural since my cats aren't catching any salmon or taking down a cow on their own, but I'm not getting a pet just to enforce a restrictive diet on them.

[+] davepleasebehave -6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So as long as the cat is happy eating the food and has nutrition it's really not a problem.

I'm not a vet or a scientist. but these issues are easy to solve.

[–] Sarmyth 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You are certainly neither. If it was easy to solve, it would already be done. I believe it's feasable with today's techniques with imitation meat but at a huge cost.

The reality is that most pet food utilizes what would otherwise become food waste. It may be difficult to replace it in a way that isn't a net negative.

[–] davepleasebehave -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

are you a vet or a nutritional scientist by any chance?

[–] Sarmyth 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That's the thing. I don't need to be, because I'm not suggesting a diet shift away from established practices offered BY vets. You, however, are attempting to escew established norms in favor of your own agenda. As they say, "Fantastic claims require fantastic evidence."

My claims are not fantastical, yours are.

[–] davepleasebehave -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

but if someone who understood it better than us agreed that the food was nutritional and the cat enjoyed the flavour you would be fine with it?

[–] Sarmyth 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hey, just give it up. I already answered that question. The nutritional value is not the only factor I value.

[–] davepleasebehave 1 points 3 months ago

no. we both agree. the food needs to be both nutritional.and palatable. then there is no issue.