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Microsoft donates the Mono Project to the Wine team (www.gamingonlinux.com)

submitted 2 months ago by mesamunefire to c/technology

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I can't help but think that Microsoft has decided to proceed in some way that will break compatibility, so they're done with Mono now.

I know it's skeptical, but I just have no faith in that company to act in good faith with anything.

[–] paf0 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)

dotnet is now a multiplatform framework itself. Do they still need mono?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is mono not the .net framework version? .net core has always been multi platform, but is not compatible with .net framework apps. So any .net apps built against 3.5 or 4.x would still need to use mono.

[–] paf0 3 points 2 months ago

It is the .net framework version. I'm not sure mono is used in anything but Xamarin and a handful of gnome apps. Xamarin has a clear upgrade path to MAUI but not without some effort and the risk of missing nugets, I did it on a small app once. This isn't super useful.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

As much as it is beloved, I don't think windows sees Linux / wine as any kind of substantial threat.

[–] kautau 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think they do in the enterprise hosting / software dev world, which is the reason for so much effort being poured into WSL, but for standard client applications or the “average user” switching to Linux I agree

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, they want to be able to get people totally off Linux as a root OS.

By creating WSL, they now can say, "Oh, you like to develop for/on Linux? Well good news, Windows has Linux built in! Just come on over to Windows and you can use WSL and Linux on Azure for all your Linux needs!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And WSL is pretty good according to one of the other guys in my department that’s been using it.

The problem for Microsoft is that my entire user experience is better when I boot straight into Linux and use all their software (except vscode) in browser tabs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I’ve heard it’s slow as molasses.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I think it is partly that, but I think it is partly all the bright young tech kids coming in from uni want Linux not Windows. I think it's targeted at inside and outside.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Very true because the relationship they have with laptop manufacturers will ensure windows domination

[–] woelkchen 12 points 2 months ago

proceed in some way that will break compatibility

That's what new major versions are for.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I can’t help but think that Microsoft has decided to proceed in some way that will break compatibility, so they’re done with Mono now.

It's essentially right there in the article:

Microsoft maintains a modern fork of Mono runtime in the dotnet/runtime repo and has been progressively moving workloads to that fork. That work is now complete, and we recommend that active Mono users and maintainers of Mono-based app frameworks migrate to .NET which includes work from this fork.

We're done with it, you guys can take the scraps. By the way, ours is better and folks should move to it.