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[–] givesomefucks 46 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

In highschool my German teacher's first memory was her train that was headed to a concentration camp being attacked and they were able to run into the woods.

Her family had belonged to one of the Christian churches that originally didn't say anything but eventually spoke up against the Holocaust.

So the congregation was either killed or in the process of getting sent to the same camps they didn't speak out against first.

It's not enough to eventually do the right thing, you have to stand up for shit immediately, hesitate and it's too late. If everyone stands up at once, it's enough people.

People forget that less than half the people killed in the Holocaust was because they were Jewish.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims

There were 6 million for being Jewish. And 11 million more for other reasons, which is really close to 1/3 than half.

Because when it started with Jewish people, not everybody stood up at once.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 19 points 3 weeks ago

my German teacher’s first memory was her train that was headed to a concentration camp being attacked and they were able to run into the woods.

Imagine what kind of news coverage we'd get if some local Antifa group did this for a bus full of deported migrants.

[–] bamfic 7 points 3 weeks ago

It started with communists. And unionists. And artists and gays. Jews were later on.

[–] TokenBoomer 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Freemasons and Jehovah’s witnesses. Is this where the conspiracies against Freemasons comes from?

[–] givesomefucks 15 points 3 weeks ago

Nah. They already existed much like the conspiracies about Judaism.

If there were conspiracies against a group, the Nazis went after them, because they had to keep finding a new group to blame when people's problems didn't disappear after the Nazis made their last target disappear.

Fascism needs a group to blame everything on, so they can never "win" they always have to have a boogeyman or else the people might blame the ones running the fascist government.