this post was submitted on 12 Jul 2023
167 points (94.7% liked)

Games

32654 readers
2485 users here now

Welcome to the largest gaming community on Lemmy! Discussion for all kinds of games. Video games, tabletop games, card games etc.

Weekly Threads:

What Are You Playing?

The Weekly Discussion Topic

Rules:

  1. Submissions have to be related to games

  2. No bigotry or harassment, be civil

  3. No excessive self-promotion

  4. Stay on-topic; no memes, funny videos, giveaways, reposts, or low-effort posts

  5. Mark Spoilers and NSFW

  6. No linking to piracy

More information about the community rules can be found here.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Any weird/controversial opinions? I'll start. Before the remake, the best version of Resident Evil 4 was the Wii version. The Wiimote controls old Resi's tank controls better than any other controller at the time. The PC version had a bunch of little bugs and detractors that the Wii version just doesn't have.

I'll extend this by saying that the Wiimote is actually pretty damn good for shooters, and particularly good for accessibility. Not having to cramp up my hands to press buttons is awesome for having arthritis. Aiming with the Wiimote and moving with the nunchuck just feel really natural, you barely have to move your fingers for anything.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Hideo Kojima's games are bad.

For context, when I was 11 my friend told me that MGS was incredible, so I went to his house to play it. It was fucking tedious. I spent hours shuffling around grey corridors, interspersed with painfully long dialog and cut scenes that were mostly about nothing.

Then, years later I decided to go back to MGS V and give the series another try. I had the exact same reaction to it as the original game. Endless waffle about characters and situations that meant nothing to me, uninspired modern military aesthetics, and boring locations.

They were clearly very well-made games, and I appreciate that people have massive regard for them. I just don't like them at all.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Upvoted for providing one of the few real hot takes in this thread. I'm a huge MGS fan, but I can see why people wouldn't like it. MGS plays with realism a lot, all while also playing with ideas from Hollywood. It makes for a very strange mix.

[–] bozo 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now this is a hot take - I tend to agree with you. MGS has always felt like more B-movie than game, featuring a convoluted story that doesn't justify the enormous amount of cutscenes. The stealth gameplay that's there pales in comparison to titles like Splinter Cell too.

Personally, the best Metal Gear game in my mind is Rising: Revengeance, and it's not even close. Highly recommend you play that one if you haven't already.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean the b-movie feel is definitely the attractor, not a detractor for fans. I totally understand how thats not everyone's cup of tea tho.

I will say that the stealth sandbox in MGS3 and MGSV rival what other great stealth titles like Splinter Cell, Thief etc have to offer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The most fun I ever had with a MGS game was watching someone else play it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, the problem is you've played the worst MGS games. 5 is the most realistic, and it's worse for it. It's also fairly early chronologically, so it doesn't do as many interesting things. The best stuff it does are references to great things that come in other games. Open worlds just generally make games worse. They slow everything down because they make you travel across space that does nothing.

4 is probably the most fun game, 3 is probably the best game, and 2 is probably the most interesting game. 3 is getting a remake (it's a fan favorite and chronologically the first game, I'm not sure which is the reason for it being the first remake), but who knows if it'll be good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would probably like the MGS games if they didn’t have 2 hour cutscenes, but I just can’t handle that.

Edit: Also, I probably have permanent damage from how much I rolled my eyes when I saw that PlayStation magazine cover for MGS2 saying “The Greatest Game Ever Made?!”