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Meanwhile, a bundle of sticks is part of fascist iconography. Not saying anything about your views, just commenting on the image.
Not really, but kind of. The bundle of sticks parable was a separate thing for most of the history of the symbol until it was partly merged into the meaning in the 1600s or so. I'd argue even then the difference is cooperation to resist vs the subservience of a peasant empowering the person who oppresses him under the guise of harming their enemies.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces
Thanks for the details. I always appreciate having more context.
So the evil fascists got one thing right. They probably also thought the sky was blue.
We need to reclaim basic concepts when they're coopted.
Haha, true! I had a similar thought:
"together strong" can be said by any group. Especially fascists, who very much value a sense of community and strength internally.
But really, it can apply to all kinds of governments ("Together for the king!") and economies (like corporation, which is pretty much 'together strong' in capitalist speak).
So I think if one wants to make a point why their system is favorable over other systems, they should not emphasize the one point they all have in common, but highlight where and how it makes a difference.
I'll just assume OP did that IRL. Memes are undercomplex.
They stole it from the Greeks. The fasces is everywhere.
The difference is the apes bundle of sticks reinforce each other, to make a larger, more durable unit, while the fascist's bundle of sticks is only there to protect the ax handle. Those sticks are disposable and replaceable for the preservation of the ax, that's their purpose.