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[–] disguy_ovahea 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The right is less authoritarian regarding business and environmental regulations than the left, as one example.

[–] PugJesus 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Businesses are just a different kind of hierarchy than government.

[–] disguy_ovahea -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The point is the right doesn’t want the government regulating businesses, whereas the left does. Therefore the left is more authoritarian regarding regulation of business, just as the right is more authoritarian in regulating personal rights.

[–] PugJesus 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't really find that a meaningful distinction in the context of discussing whether far-right ideologies are capable of being anti-hierarchy.

[–] disguy_ovahea 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Governmental hierarchy vs private sector hierarchy is the distinction. The existence of hierarchy does not define authoritarianism in government. Do you consider a head of the household an authoritarian government?

[–] PugJesus 4 points 2 months ago

Do you consider a head of the household an authoritarian government?

I would consider traditional patriarchal ideas of the head of a household as hierarchical, and that there's a significant body of work in anthropology that directly relates the outgrowth of complex and hierarchical societies from such family arrangements. So, in the broadest sense, yes. In the narrower sense of a competing polity with a monopoly on force compared to extant states, no, but that's only relevant insofar as those states continue to exist.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Preferring one authority over another isn’t the same as being anti-authoritarian. People who want complete capitalist dominance over society are not that different from people who want complete state control over society. Different organizational and legal structure, but same type of backwards moral reasoning.