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What's happening over there sucks, it is just fucking awful and noone seems to want tondo anything about. People here arguing that democrats are bad because of this, people trying to call other people hypocrits, arguing that every argument is a fallacy.
The point at the end of the day is genocide is awful, and shame on those supporting it. I'll take these democrats to task come election time when there's a better democrat or successful new progressive liberal to take their place. That's what we do instead of blindly following a party, but this change is gradually and the only way it happens is if trump loses.
The best shot we have is a mixed bag of democrats and there's no shame in working with what we have. To abstain from voting while waiting for perfection now instead of voting to begin the changes for the future is shortsighted and foolish.
Calling people bad because they're complicit in Genocide is not a fallacy. It's the definition of evil. Stop trying to pretend it's a minor thing.
Crocodile tears indeed. It's interesting that you seem to care so much about the genocide in Gaza, but can't quite bring yourself to express the slightest concern about the illegal and vicious Russian invasion of Ukraine. Are innocent Palestinians worth caring about, but not innocent Ukrainians? According to your post history, you are in fact generally supportive of Putin's actions in Ukraine. If you only oppose genocidal acts in which the US supplies weapons, but handwave away a literal direct invasion by Russia, then you're just engaged in partisan propaganda. I don't think you can be taken seriously as someone who is anti-genocide if you think that it all depends on who is committing the genocide, and/or who is the target.
Mhh some good ole whataboutism and lying.
Where's the lie? I agree there is some whataboutism, but in this case the hypocrisy of your position is so striking that it needs to be pointed out.
The comment you linked said they support the Netanyahu and thus Genocide in Gaza I'm not sure what you're even talking about.
The comment I linked to lists a bunch of your problematic comments about Putin and Ukraine, so I didn't have to repeat them here. But if you insist, here they are again:
Nobody is denying Israel's genocide, or the war criminal Netanyahu's culpability. What I am questioning is why you are only concerned about the genocide in Gaza, but when it comes to Russian war crimes, you are happy to make excuses for them. That's what I find disingenuous. All the excuses you make for Putin are the exact same sort of excuses people use to support Israel's genocidal actions. It's a double standard, and it demonstrates that your concern trolling on this topic is motivated more by anti-Western political propaganda than it is about genuine concern over war crimes.
wow you are denying civilian casualties in Gaza i see.
Nope. Where did I do that? The civilian casualties are horrific in both cases.
Where's more civilian casualties
Are you implying it's ok to make excuses for war criminals if the civilian casualties caused by one war crime are lower than during another war crime? Because it sounds like that's what you're suggesting. I mean, sure, I agree with you that Israel's war crimes have been *even worse *than Russia's. But I'm not the person defending one of these genocidal wars because the other one has more civilian casualties. What I am saying, supported by facts and evidence, is that that you seem to be ok with defending one of these war crimes while condemning the other. Someone who isn't politically partisan would be opposed to both.
I suggest you read the context of the posts you're quoting. Am I talking to an LLM?
Never said that, i was pointing out how everyone else here was bickering
Genocide does tend to rile some jimmies. I'd be more worried if it didn't.