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I lived in USSR. No you do not.
I was being sarcastic. I don't want to live in ANY dystopian system.
Could you please elaborate what was so bad back then?
Good luck. The USSR collapsed 30+ years ago and was in decline since 50+ years ago. The odds of that person having actually lived through anything other than shock therapy or revisionism are small.
Gulag
The US have Guantanamo, you don't see them shitting on ther country for it.
Anyone with half a brain shits on Guantanamo
And what exactly have you done about that?
What exactly do you expect us to do? Storm Cuba ourselves? The US government doesn't have a habit of doing what I tell it to.
I don't know, maybe organize protests, do awareness campaigns, get people to sign petitions, etc.
Hey, the Gulag and Goli Otok are gone, Guantanamo is still up and running. The ball is in your hands now, not ours 🤷.
You said you don't see people shitting on Guantanamo, but tons of people do. That's all I was replying to.
Please point where they do, cuz apprantly I've missed those posts.
What does that have to do with what you originally said?
Well, yours prison of doom still exists and all you do is shit about it. At least ours are gone, but yet we still hear about it non-stop... I mean, it's gone, it's history, get over it, yet it gets brought up over and over, and the one remaining and still working doesn't get nearly as much attention as the Gulag.
The US has a massive racialized prison industrial complex. 25% of the world's prison population. It's The New Jim Crow. And that's all before Guantanamo.
EVERYONE shits on them for it, including US citizens.
And shitting about it didn't actually close it down, did it 😒.
Are you from the former ussr? Straight talk for a second.
No, another ex socialist country. We had Goli Otok, USSR had the Gulag.
How many US citizens who simply orally disagreed with US policy are jailed in Guantanamo?
Oh please, you had to shit left and right about Stalin or Lenin or communism in general, for months at a time, to be even sent to prison, let alone the Gulag. Gulag was for political prisoners, not some shmuk with a bottle of vodka shouting that Stalin is a pussy.
On the other hand, if you so much as whispered that you're a US communist during the cold war, you're on the CIA watch list, that's for sure.
You could be a communist in US (and in many other parties). You could not be in any party other than communist in USSR and be free.
And under Stalin, if you shout that Stalin is a pussy, yes you were going to be arrested.
Of course, there was no other party, it was a single party system, why would you even have other parties.
That is not true and you know it, I've never heard of anyone just shouting that Stalin is this or that and being arrested for it. As I said, you had to shit on the system for months at a time to be even arrested. I don't know in which USSR you lived, that's not the one I know of.
It does not matter why would you try to form another party. You would be arrested.
And as for shouting Stalin is pussy - people were arrested for the less - for privately told political anecdotes in those times.
It's ok. You didn't. You lived in red fascism.
That would be the "dystopia" part.
Wow that must have been so cool, everyone working together for the common good, no more greed or selfishness.
I like Communism, but stalinist communism isn't a utopia just because it's communism
I do wish people would respect the ideals of communism more however, it's ridiculous to think that letting the people with all the money, land, and resources (i.e capital) should also have all the power
If only there exist a country that could balance the incentives of capitalism and the socialist good of communism hmm.