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[–] Iceblade02 29 points 4 months ago (23 children)

Proper snow clearance and de-icing is a vital part of wintertime infrastructure maintenance in colder climates. Icy roads are dangerous to everyone, but perhaps especially pedestrians and cyclists.

On an average year, more people are injured due to slipping on ice (~36000) than in traffic (~18000) in Sweden (where I live).

Obviously it'd be better to have more enviromentally friendly solutions, but this really isn't a car issue. In some areas here they've installed heating under the pavement to de-ice, which avoids salting and is much nicer for pedestrians, though is horribly expensive by comparison.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Many Nordic countries use gravel as a salt alternative. Pretty sure there are salt bans for private areas.

[–] Iceblade02 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No salt bans in my area at least, but it's only effective above a certain temperature (around -15°C iirc). On sidewalks/bike roads it's usually gravel+salt and on roads only salt. An unfortunate side-effect of gravel is that it (a) needs to be swept up in the spring which adds cost and (b) poses a hazard to cyclists once the snow is gone.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

It's usually automatically swept by the rain, and as a cyclist I don't find gravel hazardous: I slow down before a bend and that's pretty much it...

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