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The Ukrainian Armed Forces destroyed the bridge over the Seim River in the Kursk region of russia - Enemy media

The bridge over the Seim River in the Glushkovsky District of the Kursk region was destroyed by HIMARS strikes according to enemy media.

Part of the district is now cut off, including Tyotkino, Popova-Lezhachi, Volfino and 27 other settlements.


Previous attack by HIMARS

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[–] Badeendje 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Why would they massacre?

  • The Ukranians take as much territory they can before the russian defence materializes.
  • Meanwhile they prepare to dig in and require the Russians to take back the territory in the only way they know how to.. grind down defenders with overwhelming firepower and meatwaves destroying everything in their way.

For Ukranians the change is that the Russians will be levelling their own towns here.

If they can capture several 100's of conscripts the Ukranians can trade them for their own people.

And lastly, the whole talking point "accept the realities on the ground" and "negotiate for peace" is dead.. because we'll.. Russia will not negotiate or accept the realities on the ground. Maybe Ukraine can offer to trade the Kursk territory for the restoration of the 1991 borders.

[–] Madison420 1 points 4 months ago

It's more to destroy infrastructure and make incursions into or out of the area much harder essentially giving Russia a choice to either take back the area and have a front separated from Russia proper by water with no bridges or give up the area until you can build up a force to push back.

Either way the front in that area is pushed farther away from Ukrainian territory for the foreseeable future.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

why do russians do any of the insanely evil shit they do to their own people, over and over again through millenia?

if you think being inside russia is going to stop putin from a Dresden 2.0, you're seeing him differently than I am. eventually the meat wave will arrive. if they're not going to eventually "negotiate for peace" which i also think is foolish to believe will happen while vlad is still breathing, then the ukrainians are going to have to fight it out with the entire russian army, right now there is no general conscription, but should ukraine hold russian territory in russia proper long enough, you can bet your fucking pelmini there will be.

so, yeah, that's why i fear massacre for the expeditionary forces of ukraine in russia

[–] Badeendje 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Well from a Ukrainian point of view, this is the gist that keeps on giving. They already know how to trade territory for time.. and now it's not even their territory.

For the Russians though:

  • General mobilisation or not.. either you anger the populace or you lack manpower for all your warlording needs..

Then about the "hot" fronts:

  • Retake Russian soil now and divert assets away from the east
  • Keep the assets to the east flowing screw kharkiv.
  • Split assets evenly between both and fail on both locations.
  • Pull material from other parts of the fronts creating weaknesses that will be exploited.

Manpower is not the biggest issue here, materiel is. Manpower they could mobilize, but I doubt they can magically make more afv's tanks and other stuff appear.. if they had more they would use them in the Donbas, they are all in by now.

And finally, how to approach retaking your own land while trying to maintain it is an SMO.

  • Slow, steady and with finesse in order to not oblitherate 1000+ km2 of your own country
  • Same old tactics and use BM21 grad systems and fab500's to turn your own villages into a post apocalyptic wasteland littered with uxo.

It seems like Ukraine though this through, I hope they can pull it off.