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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lot of hostility for saying we need to pressure a Presidential candidate to avoid a genocide. Didn't expect that. Seems pretty fascist tbh. It's the lowest bar of a President, I couldn't get any lower then that if I tried.

She doesn't even have to be 100% anti-Israel, just better than Biden or Trump. And that's easy, just express literally any sort of material change to support of Israel. She doesn't even have to keep her promise, just say she'll try for an arms embargo then reverse it later and say it was too hard. It's not that hard, Biden and Trump did that with lots of their promises, as did Obama.

Besides there's other ways to leverage power, such as the protests going on at her rallies or in LA or were happening at college campuses before summer started. MLK knew that. And she's already been smarter than Biden, just for not being as involved. She's been trying to thread that needle by constantly calling for a ceasefire but then she starts wagging her finger at protestors. I'm just saying we can't let her get too complacent just because it's not Biden. She should know the public is watching her every move on this issue, and she should feel pressured to listen to protestors or lose public sentiment. Hell, I already think it helped with her VP pick of Wallz over Shapiro.

Btw, the US literally can't support Israel anymore than we already are. We just sent them more weapons and ammo. There's no higher level of genocide they can aspire to. We can't nuke the place because Israel wants to live there. They're basically going as fast as they can while maintaining the barest hints of international cover. They already complain they can't do a full famine or aren't able to openly rape Palestinians because of the angry international community. And God knows it's not that the US would be unhappy about that, as we keep supporting them despite them doing that stuff. It's the rest of the international community. The US can't speed it up anymore without breaking that international cover they need for the pretense of the UN, or nuking the land they need to live in.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lot of hostility for saying we need to pressure a Presidential candidate to avoid a genocide.

Damn straight I'm hostile to anyone arguing for voting against the only person who has any chance of deescalating this conflict. When Kamala is in the White House, pressure her all you want on Israel. Right now we need to actually make sure she makes it there, because you aren't winning anything from a Trump presidency.

As far as I'm concerned, anyone campaigning against Kamala right now is campaigning for genocide, because the only alternative to her is Trump. Stop trying to win the war when there's a good chance that we're going to lose this pivotal battle that dooms us to lose that war.

Just shut the fuck up about Israeli aid until Kamala actually has decision making power. Until then you're just sowing division.

However passionate you feel about this means nothing in regards to the actual material things that need to happen first to do anything about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Same thing was said when people were calling for Biden to step down. I don’t like Kamala but anything is better than Biden at this point. What a genocidal motherfucker. Anyway, pressure works, pressure is normal, that’s how politics work. So we got to keep pressuring Kamala to be better than she currently is.