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World population to shrink in 21st century amid birthrate fall: UN (mainichi.jp)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/world

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The world population is expected to start shrinking within this century after hitting a peak in the mid-2080s due to lower fertility levels, particularly in China, according to the latest projection by the United Nations.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think you're reading too much into what's not there. The poster is talking about how less people resulted in the improvement of labor conditions. In the past this has only happened noticeably through large scale death. The black death is probably the most drastic but similar has happened after both WWI and WWII. The difference is that the current labor supply reduction won't be from death but from reduced births. However, increased power of laborers should at least be similar whether the cause is through death or reduced births. China, Japan, and South Korea are experiencing/are going to experience this first without drastically increased immigration and the rest of the western world isn't far behind.

[–] Copernican -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

At literally every point of modern history, a reduction in the amount of humans was beneficial for the vast amount of humans in the long run.

Like, even the Black Death led to reduced wealth inequality and the beginnings of workers rights.

I don't see how someone can claim that the mass death of people is simultaneously beneficial to that people.

There's a difference in reduction of humans by events that cause death at large scale vs decline in rates of reproduction. Clearly catostrophic death is being used as an example of "a reduction in the amount of humans."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Large scale death events are the only reference we have for the type of population reduction that we are/will be seeing.

Labor supply being reduced while demand remains means that labor is stronger. Whether that supply reduction is due to death, population decline, or other causes is not really relevant.