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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/18475086

I'm not against those who work for sex, but the idea to earn for a living doesn't seem nice. IMO, sex should be for 2 people (or more for others who prefer polyamory) who wants to be intimate/romantic with each other. My point is money should not be the purpose.

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[–] Funkytom467 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

But should it be work?

Should we really have a society where selling your body is an opportunity to make money.

For instance, it imply that some poor women are gonna take it regardless the consequence, just because it's the best alternative to pay the bills.

I can barely tolerate the physical straining we put on some workers. Sex work's consequences are unacceptable to me in that same sens, sometimes worse.

So sure, no matter your opinion we should respect them, and not incriminate them!

And of course not all sex work is the same... to be acceptable it just requires better conditions. It can't be something you choose out of need.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 months ago (4 children)

selling your body

i hate that phrasing to describe sex work. no one is "selling their body", as they are still in control of it. sex workers provide a service, same as a masseuse or hair stylist (except their service involves genitals) and it should be treated as such.

Otherwise one could argue that all (physical) labour is "selling your body"

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago

It seems to me like joining the military is arguably more deserving of the phrase "selling your body"; you're basically signing up to get injured or killed.

[–] Funkytom467 6 points 3 months ago

I think the "body" in that expression is quite specifically referring to genitals, or the selling of your intimacy.

Because that's what's different from any other physical labour, the part of your body involved. That's the specific problem of sex work no?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

It’s not even an argument really, it’s the undeniable logical conclusion that trading your labor and/or time for compensation is work, period.

[–] Ptsf 5 points 3 months ago

It is a high risk job along the lines of coal mining and such, since it will result in an increase in transmitted disease risk. It's important to acknowledge that, but I am on the side of it being work. I just think we need strong protections in place and regulations to handle it akin to other dangerous jobs. Like, a sex work branch of OSHA.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

For instance, it imply that some poor women are gonna take it regardless the consequence, just because it’s the best alternative to pay the bills.

How is this principally different from a poor person taking any shitty job to pay the bills? Like garbage collector or similarly unpleasant/disrespected jobs. The system always forces poor people to settle for shitty jobs. Sex work is not the issue there, the system is.

[–] Funkytom467 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's different in nature. No other jobs infringe on your intimacy in this way.

I do agree the system is the problem, i also would advocate for better conditions for any difficult jobs.

[–] oxomoxo 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Therapist, hospice, nursing , sports medicine, massage… a lot of jobs require some level of physical or mental intimacy.

[–] Funkytom467 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Therapist is another topic, with problems of mental intimacy indeed.

The rest is the patient's intimacy that you have to deal with. It is a vastly different intimate experience to wash a genitalia and be penetrated. And so, vastly different consequences for your well being.

[–] Subtracty 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Regulations would help, but create their own hurdles.

[–] Funkytom467 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

True and tested.

The best help is probably indirectly having better social policies overall. Although never perfect, the best we are the lesser the problem.