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The Israeli human rights group B’Tselem has published a major new report documenting how the Israeli prison system has become “a network of torture camps,” where physical, psychological and sexual abuse of Palestinian prisoners is normalized and routine.

The report, titled “Welcome to Hell,” collects the testimony of 55 Palestinians who were detained by Israeli authorities since October 7 and later released, almost all without charges. This comes as a group of U.N. experts condemned the widespread torture of Palestinians and as Israel’s Channel 12 News aired shocking footage of Israeli soldiers sexually abusing a prisoner at the Sde Teiman army base, where thousands of detainees from Gaza are held.

Sarit Michaeli, the international advocacy lead for B’Tselem, says the abuse in Israeli prisons is “systemic, ongoing and state-sanctioned,” reflecting the cruelty and thirst for revenge among a growing number of Israelis. “They would like to have a completely open field in terms of what they can do to Palestinians,” says Michaeli.

You can find the full report of testimonies here

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I find it more bizarre that most of the world leaders are turning a blind eye to it all and keep the bullshit up with “right to defend themselves”.

Nothing of this has anything to do with defending.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Since october 7th, the US has sent Israel 39 F-35s, the most advanced aircraft in the world. This brings Israels count of F-35s (again, the most advanced aircraft in the world) to 50. Meanwhile, Ukraine has been begging us for F-16s, an outdated aircraft that the US Military has relegated to National Guard service and plans to retire in 2025. The Netherlands and Denmark have been who has donated all of the F-16s Ukraine is receiving.

I want to point out, literal days after Ukraine received the F-16s, they launched a counter invasion and captured Kursk. This is something that could have been much more impactful back when Ukraine started asking for the F-16s (which I want to make sure everyone remembers is a fighter platform from the 1970s that we are retiring in a few months). I don't even know... What I want people to do with this information. I just want people to sit with it and draw their own conclusions about America's priorities, and what it means to ask for and receive aid from the US.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Also, the US has been regularlu conditioning its weapons supplies to Ukraine on them not being used in Russia proper; while calls to put any conditions on Israel's usage of them have been a complete non-starter.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The pretty obvious difference here is Russia has nukes and we have no idea what will set Putin off into using them. Palestine does not.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Moral of the story: get nukes (see also, North Korea)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If your country doesn't have shitloads of money and/or oil, the United States doesn't give a shit. They only help when they have something to gain.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

and that gain must be monetary and purely one directiinal

[–] Maggoty 6 points 3 months ago

If we don't get Israel under control we're going to have to bomb those F-35s to keep them from going to the Russians. It's insane to me that we even sold them to a conflict country. Especially one we're constantly worried is going to start a war with Iran. We sold stealth bombers to the country that constantly threatens to bomb Iran and draw us all into world war 3.

Will somebody please put the adults in control of our weapons sales?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

20$ they don't want f-35s sparring with Russia unless the US is the one doing it

It's fucked up none the less

[–] rottingleaf 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I want to point out, literal days after Ukraine received the F-16s, they launched a counter invasion and captured Kursk.

Woah, woah, stop right here. They've captured a few villages in the direction of Kursk. They didn't capture Kursk. I dunno if you are getting the scale of your claims here, but look at the map first

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Okay fair. I'm not familiar with the regional geography. The point is still they got the jets, launched an offensive, and have been stunningly successful

[–] rottingleaf 1 points 3 months ago

Yes, that I agree with, but it seems that jets are not what enabled this offensive. Rather an attempt at less braindead tactics that the Soviet idiocy both sides have been doing previously.

First they (and Russians) have learned modern tactics in mostly positional warfare, but still doing dumb shit in offensives. This is the logical next step.

[–] normalexit 10 points 3 months ago

I don't want to sound like a conspiracy nut, but I am very disturbed at AIPAC and similar organizations spending millions in local primaries to unseat candidates that are vocally pro Palestine. Cori Bush and others in the "squad" dare to speak against them and are actively being replaced by big money.