Firefox
The latest news and developments on Firefox and Mozilla, a global non-profit that strives to promote openness, innovation and opportunity on the web.
You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:
Related
- Firefox Customs: [email protected]
- Thunderbird: [email protected]
Rules
While we are not an official Mozilla community, we have adopted the Mozilla Community Participation Guidelines as far as it can be applied to a bin.
Rules
-
Always be civil and respectful
Don't be toxic, hostile, or a troll, especially towards Mozilla employees. This includes gratuitous use of profanity. -
Don't be a bigot
No form of bigotry will be tolerated. -
Don't post security compromising suggestions
If you do, include an obvious and clear warning. -
Don't post conspiracy theories
Especially ones about nefarious intentions or funding. If you're concerned: Ask. Please don’t fuel conspiracy thinking here. Don’t try to spread FUD, especially against reliable privacy-enhancing software. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Show credible sources. -
Don't accuse others of shilling
Send honest concerns to the moderators and/or admins, and we will investigate. -
Do not remove your help posts after they receive replies
Half the point of asking questions in a public sub is so that everyone can benefit from the answers—which is impossible if you go deleting everything behind yourself once you've gotten yours.
view the rest of the comments
Engineering doesn't operate based on subjective feelings though.
I really don't think what I said aligns with the point you're trying to make. If I may be so bold in my assumptions, I think your web usage probably is closer to a grocery store run than to a rally race, which is perfectly fine, I am not casting any judgement. But a rally race demands a lot more out of a car and each component needs to be benchmarked and optimized in order to get that performance. In this case, improvements in those benchmarks directly correlate to how the car will operate in the field.
I guess the point that I am trying to make is that synthetic benchmarks matter more for some usecases compared to others, but to say they're always just synthetic and not indicative of reality is being dismissive of other people's usecases that are probably more performance oriented than yours.
I just said that I switched from Brave back to Firefox because I felt that performance has been improving recently. I don't think it's a coincidence that it just so happens to align with the recent benchmark improvements. And no, my add-ons have not changed.
@Molecular0079 I think we won't get much farther than this.
I disagree. Engineering requires subjective feelings too, depending on what is being engineered off course. But that's going too far now. My points are still valid and your replies are confirming, such as you feel a difference (you did not measure it, you feel see it), and I do not. That's my point.
Engineering uses objective measurements and techniques to work towards a certain subjective feeling, but that's the extent of where subjective feelings matter.
No, your point was that synthetic benchmarks are just synthetic and do not matter in reality. My point is that synthetic benchmarks matter a lot in some usecases, particularly in high performance oriented ones. These two statements are not the same, regardless of how many times you say they are.
@Molecular0079 You are wrong. Synthetic benchmarks do not represent the normal daily usage of users. I did not say the results are wrong and could not help in finding slow parts. But they are not indicative to what browser is faster than the other, because no single benchmark can answer than question. I think you don't get what I'm saying here. As I said, I think we won't get much farther than this. My statements are all correct.
The "synthetic benchmark" that OP mentions is simply a to-do list app written using different web frameworks, populated with some Todo items and then reloaded. This is done many times and then measured. I don't know about you, but this seems pretty real world usecase to me.
Of course not, but a sum of many of what you call "synthetic" benchmarks will give an indication of which browser is faster.