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I've literally talked to some homeless people that chose to not participate in society...
So better to just leave them exposed to the elements than change society to not leave them disenfranchised? A choice to not participate in society shouldn't equate to a choice to live without the most basic degree of safety and stability.
That's a "choice" just like someone who can't afford life saving medicine "choses" to not receive treatment. Its society's failure, not the victim's.
Where did I even insinuate that kind of a statement?
I know three homeless people personally. Am related to one. Two are meth users, the other is on heroin. The one I am related to has stolen money and random stuff he could pawn from anyone in my family who let him stay at their house, so he became homeless cause nobody could trust him and he often wouldn't show up for whatever local job he got. (He has a truck and we gave him gas money until we learned he wasn't actually going to work.) Couldn't stay at shelters either because of drugs. Lived in a trailer in the woods for a bit with his girlfriend until she kicked him out.
And I fully understand that, have you seen society lately?
Sometimes it is tempting to just say fuck it all
Hey cool they're being apolitical. Centrists must love them